On ya Lexi.

I swing through the trees, hang by my knee's, in my BVD's. Singin', "Aba daba daba daba daba daba dab," on a Monkey Honey Moon."
- in my usual fashion.

Apologies to Ray Price & Debbie Reynolds.

Tony Lavis, "How many footballers and how many typewriters do you think it would take to reproduce a script of Hamlet?"

That is very funny and so true.

I played all football codes except AFL and two for a university and
one for a club, reserve grade. The difference between playing for a club as opposed to schools and university was profound. Along with a few friends who were also scouted for clubs, we were astonished to find that in the adult club competition the players are into pain, inflicting it themselves and enjoying it when hurt themselves.

So there is no quibbling from me about the oft-heard 'ape' and 'knuckles dragging on the ground' comments from women.

Besides, professional footballers the world over take pride in the animal names they give themselves along with their clubs. The three times Premiers, Brisban Lions and some supporters have a sense of history and pride in the Gorilla tag from Fitzroy. It is surely not intended, or is it?, but the modern 'paddle pop' lion that graces the Lion's guernsey is very ape-like.

Anyway, there are dogs, cats, sharks and a whole menangerie of animals take to the field every weekend.

Women jocks do like gem stones, and more insects than animals when they get to snorting their testosterone, with Walleroos, Stingers (insects?) and Redbacks (black widows? maybe not!). There is a Cockatoo football and netball club, the barrackers on both sides have some leeway there (and Lexi could get herself into a tizz again about the colour).

It is impossible to imagine that any girl child minor would be doing anything but aping thousands of women -especially feminists- and getting into the spirit of things when she uses 'ape' at a football game. Send the feminists off to re-education camps for sensitivity raising on the racist terms such as ape and pig that they cast like confetti to marginalise men and now it appears, indigenous men.

Poirot: <How do you know that "Nobody was terribly offended before"?
perhaps they were terribly offended - but it takes a lot of guts to stand up to institutionalized racism,>

What I said was that the AfL Players had copped heaps of heckling
by the crowds over the years, the white Players just as much
if not more than any other players have had taunts and all sorts
of teasing about their hair or looks or embarrassing mistakes.

So this Aboriginal Player is teased about his looks and he can't
take it. Says more about his sensitivity than it does about
the girl intending any racist slur.

Lexi: you defended higher learning in one of your
earlier posts.

Higher learning would tell you that
the term Ape is an English colloquialism and has
been used for centuries to describe over-maleness,
such as aggressive behavior or hairiness.

If you were going to be offended by it then you
would have to regard it as a sexist comment not
a racist one.

Please don't insult the great Apes they are very intelligent.
Mankind has it's own penchant for stupidity.

Cherful,

Thanks for the English lesson.

Could you enlighten me as to the English colloquial term employed for people who wish to contort the central point of an argument (which in this case is the unnecessary and belligerent hurling of abuse)in such a way that the target of the abuse is made the scapegoat for the whole episode?

I'm sure there must be term for it.

"I'm sure there must be term for it."

Poirot, you know I cannot avoid being a paronomasiac...

'Reverse discrimination' is already taken.

What about 'perverse discrimination'?