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Is it racist?

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onthebeach,

If the MCG and the AFL neglect to implement proper protocol regarding minors, then it's something they should fix. After all, they are hosting children weekly at fixtures and should be clear in their directives.

I've said it before, that the people who let this girl down are the one's who taught her to hurl abuse at players. If that was compounded by the actions of officials, she's been doubly wronged.

It doesn't negate the odious proposition that seems to be emanating from you and individual that standing up to racial abuse (or abuse of any kind) is somehow wrong if it dents the sensibilities of those called out on their actions.

Why are you blabbing on about McGuire crying. This guy is an experienced media personality. He should have known better than to run off at the mouth on such a sensitive subject. His brain was apparently tip-toeing through the tulips or on some such lark when he made these comments. And with the history of Sam Newman's blackface episode on McGuire's show after Winmar's similar stand, what can we judge about the "real" attitudes in football regarding indigenous players?

Nary a word on the base morality of those regularly firing abuse at indigenous players - and yet you stage your own classical tragedy on the questionable antics of MCG and AFL official procedure.

It's attitudes like some of those seen on this thread, that have encouraged that girl to behave as she did. She's the one who paid for it, but the responsibility should rest with an abusive public and its inherent complacency on such issues.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 2 June 2013 7:54:39 PM
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Don't demean her for it.
Lexi,
Seeing that you missed it, I didn't demean her. I'm demeaning the cowardly crawlers bowing to the guilt industry & not helping bettering the sad situation we've gotten into because of idiotic PC & cowardly do-gooders.
As I said so many times, leave people to themselves & all will sort itself out. Stopping people from defending themselves is what brought all this on since Goaf.
I understand some indigenous language & I hear what they call others, it makes calling a footballer an ape sound like a compliment.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 2 June 2013 8:03:30 PM
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individual,

Are you saying that because you hear some indigenous people being abusive that we should allow racial abuse to run rife at sporting events?

Okay...but we're going to teach our son to respect every one as much as possible, regardless of race...if that's all right with you.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 2 June 2013 8:09:43 PM
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Poirot

why are you trying to change the culture of Australian
football, the crowd has always taken sides and
heckled opposition players. For as many decades as
I can remember.

Nobody was terribly offended by it before.
Obviously you don't have much grasp of
English culture. Are you even English or
have you come here from somewhere else and are trying
to change something if it doesn't suit you.

Or are you one of these academics that thinks they are so
much more educated and less "bigoted" than everybody else
and yet seem to have a limited knowledge of English and the
way it has been used for centuries. If you did you might
know that the girl's comment had nothing to do with racism
and everything to do with black beards and men acting aggressively.
Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 2 June 2013 8:13:49 PM
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So sorry...Cherrul.

Who am I to question indigenous players being targeted with demeaning racial abuse?

After all, it's good old Aussie culture at stake here.

How do you know that "Nobody was terribly offended before"?

Perhaps they were terribly offended - but it takes a lot of guts to stand up to instituionalised racism, especially when you're liable to be labelled a sook and a bully - and have every one saying "Nobody was terribly offended before....this is the way English has been used for centuries." (as if that's a good indication that it wasn't racist)

"Black beards and men behaving aggressively" - pull the other one.

Take home message for Mr Goodes:

"This is Aussie culture mate, you're indigenous and that's your lot."

The mind boggles.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 2 June 2013 8:33:57 PM
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Poirot,
11 out of 10 for twisting an argument around simply so as to not having to concede being a do-gooder.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 2 June 2013 9:05:00 PM
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