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The Forum > General Discussion > All poison peddlers need to be held accountable.

All poison peddlers need to be held accountable.

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Dear Froggie,

Fair enough but can I ask you how do you feel about us accepting Christian Serbian people into Australia when as a nation they ran concentration camps, the first since WW2 in Europe, slaughtered thousands of unarmed Croatian men and boys and ran rape camps?

Where would this stop??

No Sri Lankans? No Sudanese? The very reason a lot of these people are displaced is because of the violence within their homelands.

Should we instead look to our own circumstances rather than those of other countries and work out our own solutions. So far we have been pretty successful.

However I am dismayed about the closing of so many TAFE places. I think it severely limits the pathways for disaffected and disadvantaged youth of which understandably our migrant population is overly represented. Given the wrong environment risks of radicalising second generation migrants is increased. Some of the areas in England are really problematic and disfunctional. We have done and can do much better here.
Posted by csteele, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 3:20:26 PM
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Dear Jayb,

Tut Tut!

So instead of doing the cut and paste you so kindly offered you changed the wording of the questions and then applied my answers.

Some might call that underhanded and low, I prefer typical.

For instance;

“Do you want Sharia Law to become the Law in Australia at some time in the future?”

Became;

“Do you want Sharia Law in Australia?”

This is what you lot do all the time and it is disgraceful.

While I might not personally want Sharia Law I do want the rights we extend to some members of our Jewish community which allows them to live their lives, if they so choose, under their religious law and be judged by their religious courts, without negating in any way the primacy of Australian law, to be likewise extended to Moslem Australians.

I'm sure you knew that which is why you framed the initial question quite specifically.

As to the question I put to Philip S you need to learn the difference between presupposing the facts as well as trapping the answerer into a single answer which your version did (a clumsy tool at best), and using loaded language which was illustrated by mine.

Your questions are also of this variety.

“Such a question may be asked merely to harass or upset the respondent with no intention of listening to their reply, or asked with the full expectation that the respondent will predictably deny it.”
Wikipedia

So I think it might be my turn. Do you defend the 'Sheik's' right to free speech and to offend without state sanction or do you think, like I, he should cop some penalty even if he hand delivered the letters?
Posted by csteele, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 3:25:16 PM
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csteele - Now you have another way to divert attention away so you do not have to answer questions

To quote you "Dear Philip S, Do you beat your wife?"
A really intelligent comment from you you have excelled yourself trouble is it is only in your own eye's, to anyone with any sense you have FAILED, you now have no credibility.

I would have posted earlier but have reached 8 posts in one thread.
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 3:45:25 PM
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I apologise csteel I was only to make thing easier for you to understand but I see now that I did infact confuse the issue.

I can see that by adding "in the future" might be confusing if you wanted it now. The same thing with Australia becoming a Caliphate "in the future" if you want it now. And, with the Qur'an being the "only" holy book.

So I will ask my original questions in simplest manner of which they were first asked. I thank you for pointing this out to me.

1. Do you believe in the Qur’an?

2. Do you want Sharia Law in Australia?

3. Do you want Australia to become an Islamic Caliphate?

I do expect you not to answer these questions under the guise that you have already answered them. I am only replying to your complaint so answering them should be acceptable.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 4:09:59 PM
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csteele you and I will never get along.
But you have been hooked with your own bait.
Do you see, no one thinks more than a few of your protected species wants those things, thrown at you here.
Just maybe, in defense as always of free speech, we need to hear the foolish/nasty/wrong things too.
How else will we know?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 4:14:17 PM
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Belly - You are quick to accuse people of things and make snide comments but when you are proven wrong you fail to reply.
HERE IS A POST AGAIN
Belly - Are you completely stupid you say I never provided the source, to quote you further "I fancy no evidence can be found to support you claims. And that mate is providing me evidence of your extremist views."

NOW LOOK AT THE COMMENT DIRECTLY BELOW WHERE YOU ASKED FOR THE LINK.

HERE IS MY REPLY.
Belly - Do a search for "settlement outcomes of new arrivals" You should find it will be the first result.

Further from Denmark the Government issued a report suggesting migrants from non-Western countries cost the state $3.5 billion a year, while those from the West contributed $450 million in taxes. Now you see why Wilders was so concerned.
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 10 March 2013 6:10:24 PM

An optometrist would be a good place for you to visit today.
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 9:14:26 AM
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 5:20:35 PM
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