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The Indigenous, Juvenile Justice System - A success or failure ?

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The tribalism of "Progressives". They are anti-freedom and anti-democracy. Their way or the highway.

<In an address to students at Harvard Law School entitled Winning the Cultural War, Heston said to the students:

"You are the best and the brightest. You, here in this fertile cradle of American academia, here in the castle of learning on the Charles River. You are the cream. But I submit that you and your counterparts across the land are the most socially conformed and politically silenced generation since Concord Bridge. And as long as you validate that and abide it, you are, by your grandfathers' standards, cowards.">

The address is well worth listening to. It is regarded as a classic of American rhetoric.

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/charltonhestonculturalwar.htm
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 12 January 2013 11:56:18 AM
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onthebeach,
Thank you for that link, wow ! If the american academics were that bad back then it is just about impossible to grasp how bad australian academics are now considering they're 5-6 times more dumb than any other. I wonder if the Mayans were indeed right about 2012 being the end of the world as we knew it. Not as in physical but as in mentality.
Some of the comments on various threads seem to suggest that.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 12 January 2013 2:07:46 PM
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the more educated we have become the dumber the population. No longer are people taught to think but what to think. Credentials have won out over commonsense and true knowledge. Indigenous policy along with gw alarmism and pseudo science are clear illustrations of this. You will fail uni for thinking and questioning but pass by ticking the boxes they want ticked. What better example that than the Government of all persuasions. The head nodders next to the pollies speaking should be replaced with automatic robots. They would be much cheaper.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 12 January 2013 2:36:50 PM
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Hi there SONOFGLOIN...

Cleavland Street Boys High School, know it well, and despite being an inner city secondary school enjoyed a pretty decent academic record !

I don't think I could handle working at Redfern anymore. The racial dynamics have changed so much, that my more pragmatic approach would not be accepted nor supported by my superiors ? Thus trying to short circuit some of the near explosive restlessness and tensions that irregularly ran-hot down there, would need someone far my gifted and academically trained than me ?

Anyway, back to our topic in Redfern specifically, many of the youth in that area knew how to play the system extraordinarily well. On one occasion, in good ol' Everleigh Street, they (black youths) decided to chuck gabbage tin lids (gabbage bins were mfg'd from pressed metal/ tin, in those days) at our truck a Ford F150 'Caged' Vehicle. And in so doing, damaged a side panel, as well as breaking the glass, of a side quarter pane. In those days amounting to the approximate cost of about $450+ or - in damage.

The SM in (closed) Children's ('Kiddies') Court found the offences proved. However, in his immense wisdom dismissed all charges pursuant to S.556a of the Crimes Act 1900 ! The only problem, these little buggers had committed the same offence repeatedly, not only with police vehicles, but any other M/V's who were sufficently unwise to drive through Everleigh Street or Lane, on gabbage collection days ?

According to some former colleagues, the status quo remains unchanged.

Is it the fault of the Stipendiary Magistrate ? No it's not. The fault lies squarely at the feet of our political leaders, who neither possess the courage to change the legislation, or to impose stronger sanctions. Gaol is positively, NOT the solution. For reasons I've articulated in previous threads.

Meaningful social strategies are what's needed. These young people have got to be taught their own worth. Given dignity and encouraged to have some self-respect. Otherwise, they simply become just another lost soul, drifting through gaols and hopelessness, until they die.
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 12 January 2013 2:57:19 PM
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Hi there INDIVIDUAL...

In one of your threads,you asked '...how dumb are these academics...' or similar words ?

I've being reliably informed, it's yet to be accurately determined the precise depths of their collective stupidity ? One does wonder why then, does government bother to take any notice of what they say ?

I believe if they don't, the academics may well point the accusatory finger at them, in the event that something does go wrong, and they haven't first sought their advice ?
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 12 January 2013 3:17:10 PM
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Gaol is positively, NOT the solution.
o sung wu,
I'm of very much the same opinion due to the fact that jails in Australia are mere holiday resorts. I haven't been in one but from what's openly available to find out about them & what some delinquents told me when I spoke with them I feel I'm not wrong.
That however, does not imply that offenders should not be denied freedom. We either make jail a sentence or send them to disciplinary camps. We simply can no longer afford to listen to the civil libertarian morons whose policies deliberately by design disregard the victim.
I'll never forget the young offenders who told me they WANTED to go to jail because it is a symbol of their successful agenda to defy authority. In jail they have better everything from beds to food to exercise & access to hone their deplorable skills.
A misdeed MUST BE punished not rewarded. For those who don't understand that I suggest let yourself get robbed & let the Magistrate let the offenders off so that they can laugh at you every time they see you.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 12 January 2013 3:49:39 PM
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