Sonofgloin,
Zero tolerance is what I got not the craphead that broke into my house. I'm down 30 plus grand, three cars smashed. Our Sergeant's car was smashed too & the insurance company didn't want to know him because he resided in an indigenous community.
I am with many on this forum who say goal is not the answer. I'm for making them work under strict supervision & garnish their wages. Word would soon get around.

o sung wu,

No, I am not in the same basket as individual, Belly or others and they would similarly object to being placed in one with me.

What I was endeavoring to say is that these are complex problems requiring multidimensional research and multidimensional solutions.

It should be possible to recognise that those at the extremes of the spectrum:

- at one end only proposing empathy, sensitivity and education (but mainly education) as the 'solution'; and

- at the other (end), relying exclusively on enforcement, penalties and 'tough love';

need to accept that their models are deficient and practical experience has demonstrated that. Informed judgement and discretion must be applied. As I said, one size does not fit all.

There is no magic bullet such as not gaoling aboriginal serious offenders because they are Aborigines. Quite obviously some are so violent and persistent in harming the women and children that the women and children have to be housed in a security fenced compound that can be made secure at night and/or those men assaulting them need to be in detention.

While it might suit various interest groups to cast all fault as being rooted in the (inherited!) wrongs of history and expound education and self determination as the magic bullet, that has been tried for many years and the resultant curtains of secrecy have allowed all manner of violence and corruption to bloom. It allowed violence against women and children to flourish.

All women and children regardless of race or cultural background (take your pick) must have equal protection of the laws of Australia. That is a non-negotiable.

The videos I posted to you earlier should remind that first, the public has to be protected and that includes the aboriginal women and children. To put the needs and comfort of the offenders first as appears to be happening in this thread and has been a theme of policy for decades after Whitlam has failed and is not something that the Australian public will cop any longer.

need to accept that their models are deficient and practical experience has demonstrated that.
onthebeach,
I am not aware of any cases where those young offenders had to repay ?

individual,

I was not referring to anything you wrote. Sorry if it appeared that way.

o sung wo.
Think it is time to put meat on the bones of my report re Nephew above.
These days police must inform before entering the mission.
Back then a heap of about 200 stolen burnt out cars could be found behind the place.
And about 3 kids a month arrested.
So the stage was set for my white trash young bloke to get in trouble, for the first but never his last time.
Police in hot pursuit followed car, stolen, on to mission.
A crowd, violent and armed with rocks, adults mainly, surrounded them.
WT fighter all his life, took one on and got six months, not enough.
How many of us have to confront that at work.
How many want the car thief stopped.
How many are willing to admit separate laws or conditions for a whole people we claim we want to live as our equals is right.
Tough love is still love, and if it produces better?
Bleeding hearts create a mess, we as a nation must get the guts to do what we have failed to do for 200 plus years.
Tough love leads to education, work, accountability, and true equality.

Tough love is still love, and if it produces better?
Bleeding hearts create a mess, we as a nation must get the guts to do what we have failed to do for 200 plus years.
Tough love leads to education, work, accountability, and true equality.

I challenge anyone to find fault with Belly's post.