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The Indigenous, Juvenile Justice System - A success or failure ?

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worldwatcher,
You're stating facts which are always disputed by the career parasites in authority & bureaucracy. When I sat on the bench as a JP Magistrate I was told by some up-coming crim why he did all the things he was in court for he told me with actual glee "because I'll get sent to Lotus Glen (jail)". Further questioning resulted in explanations of the conditions exactly as you describe.
Jail should not be an option if restitution is paid but if no compensation is in the air lock the craps up. Those against such policy had better compensate the victim themselves & see how much longer they'll be in favour of the present system.
I am just so sick & tired of these idiot academic morons ruining our future.
Posted by individual, Friday, 11 January 2013 6:33:41 AM
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all goes back to the totally dysfunctional family. Some of the 'stolen ' were actually 'saved ' because half castes were not accepted by own people. This is a cruel reality and to continue to act because of the guilt industry is reprehensible.Many many white kids would of been 'stolen ' by DCS if treated as badly as many black kids. Many mothers rceiving centrelink payments for kids while granny looks after them and others. There are no winners in this except the academics writing their pervese view of history and indocrinating as many as can be made feel guilty.
Posted by runner, Friday, 11 January 2013 8:57:36 AM
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'afternoon to you WORLDWATCHER...

You seem very well informed of what actually happens with offending black youth in W.A.? You're also correct with the effect that often happens apropos indigenous incarceration, but then I can only comment on NSW.

Many indigent black offenders welcome time in gaol, mainly for the physical benefits they're entitled too while there. Particularly, around Christmas, Easter and in mid-winter. To me, this is a massive indictment against our so called enlightened, caring society.

Some within this Forum, are ever critical of the role Academics play, in their attempts at social engineering, and effecting change.
I suppose we all have our part to play, in ensuring our most needy are taken care of. Trouble is with our liberally minded and enlightened academics, they 'instruct' us all on what we must do, but NEVER tell us how it should be done ? For this reason, as an ex- copper they do tend to push all my 'angry' buttons.

According to my Psychiatrist friend, you'll never encounter an academic out in the back of WA or the NT. They base all their directions, counsel and data, from what they read and garner from this psychiatrist, and other similarly qualified medico's case notes !

What is it they say about 'hearsay' evidence ?
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 11 January 2013 2:05:57 PM
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o song wu,

You're right, I was part of the correctional system for a couple of years until I left in disgust.

The young 'academic' superindent of one particular facility went straight from graduating Uni as a psychologist into his position. He didn't have a clue about 'real' life, but plenty of theories he'd obtained through his studies.

At the time a certain self proclaimed leader of a fringe aboriginal group had the media on his side to such an extent that whenever any of his kids were caught, they were immediately released on instructions from Head Office, as he always threatend the Dept of Community Affairs [don't know it's current title], that he'd raise a stink in the media.

One Christmas I remember in particular. There were no less than 8 of them in the week leading up to Xmas, and all were released [with their new shoes and clothes] immediately after. Just one of these kids had done over $35,000 worth of damage to vehicles with no court consequences.

But he enjoyed his Christmas vacation.
Posted by worldwatcher, Friday, 11 January 2013 3:29:31 PM
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o sung wu>> Do you recall 'Mumma Shirl'<<

Yes, absolutely, mum Shirl did a sterling job of taking care of the community kids while some of their parents slowly demolished their lives through drink, and later drugs.

OSW, I am actually Paddington born and bred when Paddo was blue collar/pimp/gunnie/bohemian. Then it went hippy and then faggy, and then the prices went through the roof, our family did well out of it....eventually.

But I went to Cleveland Street Boys High. Of the students in my classes up to year ten, more than half were Aboriginal, the rest was pretty evenly divided into Anglo's, Lebanese, and Turks. Years eleven and twelve were mostly Anglo's with a sprinkling of Lebanese. I was one of two who went on to uni, a terrible number given I started my secondary education with about 200 other fellow year sevens.

Most of my Aboriginal mates ended badly, but their soft nature and selflessness honesty when it came to those who mattered to them saw a few of them gifted to me by life. But do the boys think differently from me....oh yeah....can I understand their resentment, and they do carry resentment…..oh no….

As I said in my first post, I believe that ten generations out from a stone age DNA, mixed blood or not, the compliance required by modernity is more than a struggle.
Posted by sonofgloin, Friday, 11 January 2013 5:13:26 PM
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Worldwatcher>> You're right, I was part of the correctional system for a couple of years until I left in disgust.<<

WW, are you a pommie?
Posted by sonofgloin, Friday, 11 January 2013 5:20:10 PM
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