individual>>Why not change a few regulations right now & make army soldiers Police deputies in situations like this. Don't give me any cries of Police State, discrimination etc. If there are not enough Police to deal with these rectums then enlist the assistance of soldiers.<<

Hey Indy, why don't we just nuke them. Or they could go the Herod method....kill every newborn boy.

Lets get some perspective on Aboriginal youth crime.

There is a Middle Eastern Crime taskforce….there is no Aboriginal crime task force.

There are constant convictions of Middle Easterners for big time drug operations….not so for Aboriginals.

Nightly drive by shootings by Middle Easterners in their enclaves…..not so for Aboriginals.

Outlaw motor cycle gangs ranks filled with Middle Easterners….not many Aboriginal bikers.

Middle Eastern crime is mostly conspiratorial……..aboriginal crime is usually opportunistic and intoxicant driven.

There is an old saying Indy; “if you want to hit a dog, you can always find a stick”. Have you run out of sticks yet tiger?

certainly the glorification of the culture which demands mob mentality, pay back, woman as second class citizens will again be overlooked. The Westerners will continue to be made guilty that their horrible 'çhristian ' history is the cause of this barbarity. In actual fact they would be right to conclude that secular selected academics have certainly created an atmosphere where the violent, the drunkhard and the lazy feel justified.

Hey Indy, why don't we just nuke them. Or they could go the Herod method....kill every newborn boy.
Sonofgloin,
No, I'm proposing common sense not silliness. Don't you think a few army lads walking the back streets occasionally would discourage the would-be louts ?

Individual>> Don't you think a few army lads walking the back streets occasionally would discourage the would-be louts<<

Indy, do you remember Kent State Uni in Ohio in the mid 1960’s?

They brought the National Guard in to sort out the non violent siege of the uni by Vietnam protesters. The guards shot a dozen kids, killing five outright. The only reason that the national defense force should employ martial law is in times of revolution…..the cops for everything else.

Indi, what you want is a police force as we had before the police force became the police service. You want a force that had a height and weight requirement so a physical presence of enforcement was apparent when the cops arrived.


You want a force that can trust the hierarchy to stick by them if they acted within the law regardless of the political attitude to any issue or minority, so all obeyed the same laws enforced in the same manner.

You want a judiciary that gave one or two chances at redemption, but on next conviction considered you a recidivist and you copped the top number regardless of who beat you as a child.

You want the consorting laws back because crims do associate and their right to do so should not be a given.

TBC

Can’t have them back Indi, the PC brigade took advantage of the fact that nearly all the state police forces were incredibly corrupt in the 1980’s, and after the Royal Commissions threw out the corrupt cops, who happened to be the experienced cops, …..great cops, but such thieves….. the PC brigade sent in the administrators and bureaucrats…..then we got a police service.

The only sound and proven solution is to get the kids jobs. You know that zero tolerance thing that cleaned up Ney York….I found this:

>>The two most eminant specialists, Edward Maguire, a Professor at American University, and Professor John Eck from the University of Cincinnati, rigorously evaluated all the scientific work designed to test the efficiency of the zero tolerance policing policy in the fight against crime. They concluded that "neither the number of policemen engaged in the battle, or internal changes and organizational culture of law enforcement agencies (such as the introduction of community policing) have by themselves impact on the evolution of offenses."
The crime decrease was due not the work of the police and judiciary, but to economic and demographic factors. The main ones were an unprecedented economic growth with jobs for millions of young people, and a shift from the use of crack towards other drugs.

Getting the kids a job is the only solution.

Sonofgloin,
I'm fully aware of the situations you describe from years ago & I don't think too many people are trying to deny it. What I'm on about is a renewed try of sorting out the bad elements & yes those including in authority also. I'm (hopefully) thinking that there is sufficient (hopefully) hindsight & (hopefully) foresight with the benefit of an overdose of hindsight that such forces would (hopefully) behave with a far more enlightened mentality than in those days. Talking with a Police Officer whilst I am typing this post I get told that there aren't sufficient Police to get things back on track. This is why I think it would be a good thing if a Sergeant could just call the CO of the Army Station down the road to lend him a few lads just to walk the alleys & encourage those hang-about louts to go home. Perhaps some tech could come up with a politically correct Baton to help the louts find the quickest route home.