Belly>> Other should not fall for the I loved Norm gushing.
He in part, enforced the need for factions.
Extremist left, on the job Bully, he and his ilk had to be contained, a party wanting to govern must want to do so for most not a minority.<<

You are wrong with the faction bit Belly. Labor always had factions, why do you think the DLP formed?

Do not short sell my opinions on the Australian Labor party. As I have mentioned to you on many occasions I grew up with Labor. Caldwell, Whitlam, Wran, they all dined at my father’s table.

Normie was a brute, a Marxist brute, but my point regarding the deflowering of him by the Parliamentary Labor party had more to do with their slowly evolving malleable fiscal philosophy than any misdeed by him.

I am against any commission into the unions as a whole, but their legal charter must be changed so the executive is accountable to an independent accounts auditor. Problem solved.

Wobbles>> I think the notion of the ALP being soley controlled by unions is somewhat overstated.<<

Wobbs, I don't agree with you often but you nailed it with that post.

Just for you Wobbles.

The 1949 Australian coal strike was the first time that Australian military forces were used during peacetime to break a Trade union strike. The strike by 23,000 coal miners lasted for seven weeks, from 27 June 1949 to 15 August 1949, with troops being sent in by the Ben Chifley Federal Labor Government to the open cut coal mines in New South Wales on 28 July 1949, with the workers returning to work, defeated, two weeks later.

One thing about the labour movement, Labor Party in Oz, love em or hate em, they sure throw up some colorful characters, never dull. Unlike the conservative mob who think Pig Iron Bob was the life of the party. "I did but see her passing by, But I shall love her till I die." Please.
The politician I most admire, no its not Bob Brown its Jack Lang. I wounder what the Big Fella would make of today's wozzy bunch, me thinks he would have em for breakfast!

Has anyone got an idea how much business steals from the GST each year I'm told its estimated to be around $13,000,000,000. They make Wlliamson and Obeid look like a pair of Goody Two Shoes.

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Labor-factions-split-on-calls-for-deep-reforms-pd20121205-2PNVE?OpenDocument&src=hp6
Yes another link.
Most know my passion for this subject is aimed at leaving the filth behind, true reform for both party and its parent Unions.
Wobbles, we travel the same path, me with Axe in hand, clearing a path, you picking the fallen trees up and replanting them, hopelessly.
Sonofgloin jumps to defend you, yet he too claims youthful ties With a Labor Party long gone.
Uninformed, that is the very best any one can say about claims Labor and Unions are not locked together.
My link above, is one informed ALP insiders will not question.
Others, maybe wobbles and sonofgloin?, may need informing.
Bill Ludwig from QLD, members in most ALP branches, Bill Conroy and Shorten in Victoria, with help from the NSW right.
Drove Rudd from Office and Gillard in to it.
They along with such as Swan, want nothing to do with reform that will uncover that wrong, and take the power from men in numbers not much more than ten, and deliver it back to those who own it, party members.
Last, as in 1972 Labors faceless men are trade unionists.
And now is the time to free my party from them.

Paul,

Telling porkies again?

The GST is considered an efficient tax because it is difficult to evade. Your figures would give an evasion rate of about 25%.

Maybe your aliens told you? Or Brown eye Bob?