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The Forum > General Discussion > Do we need and inqyuiry in to Union Coruption?

Do we need and inqyuiry in to Union Coruption?

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An inquiry into a Union whilst we have a federal Labor Government ? That's like putting the inmates in charge of the institution.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 6:20:06 AM
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One of the unfortunate side effects of Union/Labor crime is it gives the elitist in society an opportunity to attack workers rights. A weak Labour movement, with lost of industrial and political power, will see the conservatives in the ascendancy. Once in power these elitist will set about destroying many of the hard won right workers struggled to achieve through unionism over many years.
Abbott in government will combine with the conservative states to bring back Howards work choices, because of the actions of a few labour criminals workers will be powerless to resist.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 7:06:35 AM
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The laws that give unions monopolies over industries, and the weak oversight legislation fosters corruption like the no marriage rule and church secrecy nurtures child rape.

The Union / Labor crime is weakening the left. The question is how to deal with it.

Option 1: do nothing and paper over the cracks, and see more of the same, or,
Option 2: have an inquiry, and make the unions transparent and open to make corruption difficult with legislation similar to companies.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 8:37:09 AM
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Somehow, and I don't pretend to know how, the constitutional link
between the unions and the labour party must be broken.
There will always be an emotional link, but the problem that I see is
the career link.
How can a labour government possibly undertake an inquiry into the
union movement, they are the same organisation.

The link between the liberal party and business is far more tenuous.
The connection between lawyers and the liberal party is much stronger
than the business link.
Probably more important is that business and then liberal party is not
considered to be a career path.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 9:09:13 AM
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Bazz believe me, you got that wrong.
I would rather stick to the theme, but All party,s have support no cleaner than union support for Labor.
A real understanding,not the public view of a monster union movement terrorizing bosses is an advantage of any inquiry.
Remember Abbott wants accountability, so do I .
But know, Modern unionism, carry,s the bag for past extremist ones and their acts.
Too for current extremists unions who WRONGLY believe screaming and shouting, even constructing issues, recruit new members.
Only a few, very few but very strong, unions are like that, always extreme ones.
Bosses actually call on my union, deal openly, honestly, we us, to keep the fools out.
20 in every hundred are in unions.
In truth it is not going to get better until a review of practices is held.
HSU bashed and rolled its members, for a generation, it failed to even serve them.
Even see thousands for year after year.
I at a mass protest against work choices, had to take on their role for free, to get replacement hospital staff uniforms, last issue was years before.
Not every union is HSU like
I will now try to put the link between union and Labor in focus.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 11:34:47 AM
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While calling for the sins of the trade union movement to be judged including prison terms, please research what I say.
From its birth unionism has been targeted as something dirty, the Tod puddle Martyrs found them selves convicted and sent here for? wanting a fair wage.
Opposed always by the self interest of bosses, in Britains case land owners who virtually own the workers too.
In the Australia we heard of the Eureka Stockade, we fly the souther cross with pride.
But very few know of the harsh British view of those who work for a living.
The Ned Kelly story is vilified or set on a pedestal, but the way his mother was treated speaks of the petty thuggery of police in those days.
A shearers strike bought about, under the tree of knowledge the birth of the ALP.
a 7 year old child who took water to the chained up men under a tree after the end of the stockade fight, formed two unions latter in life.
One went on to become the AWU.
First party ruled you must be unionist and unions ruled the child of unionism.
We grew and matured, not long ago 60% of seats at conference had to be union ones, folk with real potential to be great politicians stood aside so imported uninterested in politics workers could vote then return to the pub.
Even now, 50% must be union!
And unions support for Labor is in man power and cash millions.
Remember, we are not all criminals, not just for being different than our opponents.
I think we resemble most a breast stroke swimmer emerging from a septic tank just now.
A remoteness from what ordinary folk think has engulfed us.
NSW, what could be said?
HSU, knifing of Rudd.
Conservatives will say that was needed yet I know it was power miss used against those who make up the numbers that gives the power, union members Labor voters.
In the end all people are in my view equal, or should be, every crime deserves a time in the sin bin.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 12:02:07 PM
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