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The Forum > General Discussion > Do we need and inqyuiry in to Union Coruption?

Do we need and inqyuiry in to Union Coruption?

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Paul have fun at your end of year party.

Don't forget your tin foil hat.

I am looking forward to an imaginative reason why there is $13bn GST fraud.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 8 December 2012 6:01:46 AM
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Paul bitter nasty and wrong.
I can cover you with past and present ALP party membership cards.
What I can not do is make you look internally at your own side.
Much like almost every Liberal, Conservative, National, you have total blindness when it comes to doing that.
Each of us, should, in the name of the party they follow/serve do just that, look inward and demand better.
No one who truly understands politics, can not see the benefits in doing so.
And the very real dangers, in not doing it.
When will you take up your pen? to tell of the mistakes of your party that are and will pushing it to its death?
How do you explain for a party you claim will replace Labor, you numbers both in membership and votes has stalled?
Dream your dreams, but know, Australia will never embrace a socialist left lost greens or any such party.
Review this thread, head cleared of what ever ails you, see who posted it, see my theme.
Tell me, what am I hiding?
My purpose is truth/ a return to party ambitions not slugs.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 8 December 2012 6:13:34 AM
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Belly, you have disappointed me. It is characteristic of the major parties that they make noises about socialism or communism when a fairer society is advocated. The Greens are not socialist and your mentioning a socialist left when referring to the Greens is plain crap. If you want to criticise the Greens disagree with what they advocate. The Greens do not advocate government ownership of the means of production. To call them socialist is nonsense. I thought you were above name calling or dog whistling, but I was wrong.
Posted by david f, Saturday, 8 December 2012 7:16:48 AM
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Belly we were sailing along fine, but then you chose to post this:

"If we look at Paul,s workers paradise the Soviet Union and its slave states we see the damage unions can do, if not true Representatives of workers."
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 6 December 2012 11:35:25 AM

Belly, if you can find any rubbish posted by me earlier than the above insulting you, I humbly apologise.

Again I ask you. What is your take on John Robertson and party reform in NSW. Shortly we will be coming up to 2 years of O'Farrell, I fail to see any real improvement. The recent Heffron by-election was an op to bring in new blood, but a Sussex Street deal was done, and a old member of the party right Ron Hoenig got the nod. Sacking high profile criminals is not reform, its a reaction. Nor is attacking The Greens as some of the ALP right have chosen to do, I suspect the motive is to deflect attention from the problems their faction have caused the party. On the political side much of the opposition to O'Farrell is coming from The Greens not Labor, too busy with the internal fight and forgetting about the people.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 8 December 2012 8:31:26 AM
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The recent and very public alleged fraud cases involving trade union officials has helped the Australian public to understand the background of ALP/ Union relationships. There is now much evidence of some really ugly and non-democratic “enablers” which are now coming to public light.

The direct induction of full time activists into the bottom of the pyramid through legal firms, trade unions, NGO’s and the ALP can be now seen as a single amorphous entity. This has created career paths for many who would find it difficult to find work outside such an ideologically comfortable and structured environment.

This system has become one and the same “fabric”; it has been woven over time to provide for favors to be exchanged for compliance. This results in the progression through a system of cronyism and mutual dependency, of those currently “favored” to receive some sort of benefit. These benefits are currently exposed as including cash, positions of power, inside information, preferred supplier status, money laundering, career progression and immunity, just to mention a few.

Those now under public scrutiny are all products of this systemic cheating and they do what they do because the system they have created allows them to do it, get away with it and to cover it up.

Any Judicial inquiry into one aspect will be an inquiry into all
Posted by spindoc, Saturday, 8 December 2012 9:31:04 AM
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Spindoc as you know we now understand just who you are.
Indeed you name has been posted here and you are as described a Liberal Spin Doctor, paid to spin.
And we clash, often.
Here I agree!
No good mucking around!
Your mob, very much more than at any time in the past FRIGHTEN me under Abbott,s dysfunctional form of Liberalism.
But my whole point here is this.
Labor must reform.
I can, write 100 pages, of the same faults and needs in your party.
But that is not why I write.
Let me clear the decks first GREENS, Paul, of late you are taunting posters from all sides, then saying you are being funny.
This morning I drove 72 klm each way, to a comunity market.
Spent money on things I did not need, to help it continue.
A little bloke I value most rode on my shoulder, talking of you.
My inner self!
Constantly I reviewed my words in retaliation to you, my thoughts and reasons behind my insults about greens.
Here is the result.
Abbott, maybe his party with another leader, is about to govern.
So very much Labor could achieve will not get over the line.
Because the greens want all or nothing.
Hence? ONLY THE LIBERALS will introduce THEIR POLICY'S!
Greens could have stopped the boats LONG AGO, by saying OK Abbott will, let us get more refugees in return for?
Malaysia!
David! lee Rianon! do not convict me for thinking as our country thinks!
See the truth, AT LEAST 60 IN EVERY HUNDRED DISLIKE THE GREENS.
My thoughts here are so Labor can reform BEFORE electoral defeat, not after.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 8 December 2012 11:31:43 AM
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