Banjo,

Of course, neither of us can be sure as to the real motivations behind what choices a politician makes, however I'd like to be charitable and regard the recent decision as a partial return to Labor values.

I've previously indicated that I don't accept the equation Palestinians=terrorists=Moslems and that Israel is on the front line defending the West from the Islamic hordes.

You seem to be ignoring the history of the Zionist movement and its implications for the current Palestinian tragedy.

As to racist rants, refer to this link and the post by "Ashar" which demonstrates the racist attitudes of Israeli politicians at the highest levels of government.

http://newmatilda.com/2012/11/29/labor-matures-foreign-affairs

"Ethnic cleansing" has always been on the Zionist agenda. In the 1930s Western diplomats were appalled at the sinister expectation by some Zionist elements that the Palestinians would simply "disappear".

mac,

Hear, hear.

"You seem to be ignoring the history of the Zionist movement and its implications for the current Palestinian tragedy."

And the beat goes on...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-01/us-says-israeli-settlement-plans-counterproductive/4402412

J Bowyer,
Your question was taken seriously and answers given seriously.

Now you have multiple answers to your Question, I have a question for you.

In light of your new found knowledge, Do you think my original post was dog whistling?

You see, sometimes some one eyed posters can read things in posts that are not there. So were my questions legitimate or was there some hidden code?

Banjo my reference to dog whistling was not aimed at you.
You are aware I say as I think.
The theme of the thread is misleading, and I told you so.
I see you have put another meaning to it and except that.
Apart from your dislike of my contributions.
Now be honest, have you seen any post here, launch in to the ALP unfairly?
Because they voted with 2 3rds of the world?
No link can be made that says Labor is pro Palestinian.

Mac,
I know nothing of Zionist history but I do know that Israel has been under attack since its inception and had those people not been strong they would have been killed off by now. I further credit them with making a country from nothing, by hard work and enterprize.

Palestinians, on the other hand, have constantly engaged in terrorism so I do not hold much stock in their claims of human rights. They have always shown they care not for human rights.

I doubt the differences will ever be resolved because Palestine will not recognize Israels right to exist.

However I am more interested in the issue of why the Labor caucus changed its mind relating to the UN vote to upgrade Palistines position. You are certainly charitable in your view, I would say niave. I am far more cynical as nothing this government has done leads me to think they have any integrity. I also think it is worth noting that the politicians, epecially Labor, are taking notice of the Islamic influence.

Now I do not neccessary support the Liberals, but the present government is the worst ever, and the political reality is if we want to be rid of them, then the Liberals are the alternative.

Banjo

"I know nothing of Zionist history", actually if you knew anything about Zionist history, you'd understand why, on objective human rights criteria, the Palestinians deserve our support. The size of the Moslem community is irrelevant.

"However I am more interested in the issue of why the Labor caucus changed its mind relating to the UN vote..."

I'm really don't understand how you can make judgements in regard to the situation between Israel and the Palestinians while confessing ignorance of Zionist history and aims.
Unless you look at the history of the ME you'll always be searching for some alternative explanation for the shift in policy rather than moral repugnance at Israeli oppression.

Poirot,

I wonder how OLO's resident pro-Israel propagandists will "justify" that atrocity.