Pericles said;
Absolutely nothing. It is a statehood issue, not a religious one.

Yeah ? Are you really serious ?

The Labour party is at risk of becoming the Islamic party or at least
in the way our parliaments are usually almost balanced, will be in
the situation that a large minority can determine policy.

Yes J Bowyer I agree. I never read past it myself. The moment I see "dog whistle" I think the poster is the injury caused by a sharp pointed implement, & ignore the rest.

It is merely a b grade way of trying to put down the counter arguments of posters to follow

sonofglobin-again I agree with all you say, but I would like to just
discuss the following.

<But the errant view that Caucasians were bringing civilization to these lands and their peoples is a dated philosophy that decreed that one race was superior to another.>

It should be a dated philosophy, but in reality the world continues on it’s ethnic cleansing way unabated.

The Arabs wish to ethnically cleanse the Jews(they have said, we will wipe the jews off the map) from Palestine, and the Jews no doubt are guilty of trying to rid Israel and the Gaza strip of Palestinians.

The islamist protestors recently in Sydney, declared the Infidel (which means the devil) are inferior to the Islamists so we wouldn’t go to heaven only they would. Surpremasist Thinking, you bet!

If the Australian army hadn’t stepped in, the Timorese would have been pretty much ethnically cleansed by now. The indigenous Solomon Islanders attacked the Chinese immigrants and they would have been in serious danger of being ethnically cleansed if the Australian army hadn’t gone in there as well..

Then we have the ethnic hostility that resulted in the coup in Fiji.
Anyone who believes that we are not tribally, territorial, aggressive is living in Academic, Hippy, United Nations, Fairy La La Land.

If we can manage to assimilate at the tribal,bloodline level we will go forward in peace in Australia but if not, we will be recorded in history for our civil wars and the splitting of this country
Into different countries or "separate states" as the Tamils and other Civil-War lords,(rebels, militia, revolutionaries etc)like to call them.

History past and history present demonstrates this clearly.
Blindingly so.

Ponde,
Israel wasn't founded because of WW2,the idea of Jewish state long predates the 1933-45 issues and many former inmates of the German internment and labour camps have lived in poverty in Israel as they are accorded no particular standing above anyone else in that country. The "Holocaust" faith and the over the top Zionism of AIPAC is a belief system of mainly non observant Jews from countries outside Israel chiefly the U.S.A, Tony Judt explains:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTc6LBtWEg0

For example, the Yad Vashem memorial in Israel was built with funds mainly from American donors and the ubiquitous "holocaust" memorials in every major Western city are not being built by Israel but by local Jewish groups.
My point is that so much water has passed under the bridge since 1948 that the "Holocaust" metaphor, or allegory if you will is no longer relevant and is just a cheap tactic used by people with no personal stake in the issue to shut down an opponent, be they of the Left or the Right. When confronting a Leftist on the issue invoke Auschwitz, when confronting a right winger accuse the Israelis of being "Nazis", it's the type of argument most often used by blockheads or trolls.

Ponde>>Do you really think that if the Israelis retreated back to the pre 1966 border there would be peace?<<

Ponde probably not, the Palestinians are a feisty bunch.

My point is that the territory that Israel was given should be all they retain control over. They are expanding their settlements and further eroding the land that the U.N. identified as Palestine in 1948.If history was different my personal view is that any aggression from Palestine towards Israel should be answered with overwhelming force. If the Palestinians persist, then the overwhelming force persists.

But I do not see it that way at present. As it stands Israel has continued the provocation by illegally occupying territory from Egypt, Jordon, and Syria. In 1967 if they had moved back to their own boarders and the Palestinians persisted with aggression I believe the neighboring Arab nations would have eventually worked with Israel to keep the Palestinians in check. Understand it or not, the Palestinians are not top of the favorites list amongst other Arabs. They are a pain in the posterior when in numbers.

Ponde>>If the Palestinians were given their own land to govern, there would be peace?<<

The Arabs never got the bee out of their posterior and the simplistic Moslem masses had governments that carried an anti Israeli posture, so the plebeian tribal simpletons had their Satan to hate. No mate its Israel’s fault. There is an adage that comes to mind…sheit does not offend the olfactory if you do not poke it with a stick.

Ponde>>I am just interested in a body count of just how many Palestinians have been placed in gas chambers.<<

Look Ponde old fruit, what’s done is done. My only comment is that the Russians lost over twenty million during that war, the majority was civilian. Past suffering does not give you a GET EVEN card to be trotted out when needed against a civilian population.

Are we a racist nation?
Heard that Melbourne bus dirt being rebroadcast on SBS radio last night.
It hurt, I felt ashamed.
Here the thread asks about , on a two party preferred, near half our population ALP and its voters by inference.
It, as time has passed, has seen two thirds of the UN vote yes.
Not for full membership, not in agreement with the terrorist acts from the west bank.
No vote has been taken asking us to agree to the primitive middle ages hate, generated by Islam.
Unfortunately, we have not been asked what rights we would have in any Muslim country, or do we want to share our country with these folk.
We are asked about ALP voting as two thirds of the world did.
Now that question asker,I NEVER shake hands or talk to any one I hold so little regard for, have not forgotten or forgiven your rude introduction here.
This thread has many contributors DOG WHISTLING.