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Islam and Labor?

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Poirot, sonofgloin

LOL

As I've stated many times I do not enter into discussions on the rights and wrongs of Israel. Believe what you want.

But I do occasionally post reality checks and factual corrections.

In my previous post I merely pointed out that if the Israelis really did treat the Palestinians the way the Germans treated the Jews in Europe pre-1945 there would be almost no Palestinians left - well not in Gaza and the West Bank anyway which is where most Palestinians live. They'd be mostly dead - men, women and children.

I have nothing to add to that statement.

Great cycling weather here in Melbourne today so I'm off.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 2 December 2012 8:15:51 AM
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stevenmeyer

"Well of course if the Israelis did treat the Palestinians "like Germany treated the Jews of Europe pre 1945" there would be almost no Palestinians left."

Agree entirely, an extremely inappropriate analogy. A more appropriate one is to compare the creation of Israel with the British colonial invasion of Australia, unfortunately there's been no "Mabo" for the Palestinians and probably never will be.

Poirot, mom ami,

"I find it difficult to realise that a people once so cruelly treated could dish out a similar fate to others."

I don't, there are many historical examples of the oppressed becoming the oppressors, and Jews are no different from the rest of us, they have also committed a few atrocities themselves--see the "Kitos War". It's simply a matter of relative power.
Posted by mac, Sunday, 2 December 2012 8:49:14 AM
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Just to set the record straight, I support Israel over Palestinians, almost every time.
I remember Munich
I remember all those planes hijacked.
The Murders of defenseless prisoners, including that sick old lady in Idi Amins care.
I KNOW lies are the ak47 of this group of people.
I know they mostly hate us.
But i8n this matter, only the very lost think a scandal exists, that Labor has gone over to them.
Mark those few, know you must look else-ware for informed comment.
Know two, a two state solution is THE ONLY HOPE FOR PEACE.
Do not let us forget both sides need to compromise.
But too If Muslim extremists stop fighting there will be peace.
If Israel does there will be no Israel.
The very left is very blind, not at all interested in the life women and girls lead there.
But whiling to fight any ANTI American cause!
Thread has never approached evidence Labor acte3d any different that it should have
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 2 December 2012 9:07:53 AM
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Isn't it time that we all accepted that there is no solution to this problem.
You know, there ARE problems without a solution.
The jews were there before the Arabs, but no one ever took notice of
precedence in that or in any other dispute either.
These disputes are driven by survival.
Thats just the way it is, so live with it.

BTW, I remember reading that the present aborigines were not the first here.
They displaced an earlier migration, hmmm.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 2 December 2012 9:23:02 AM
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Bazz,

"....hmmmm"

Then there's this:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-23/aboriginal-dna-dates-australian-arrival/2913010

I'll just reprise the 5000 years of ME imperial history.

http://mapsofwar.com/ind/imperial-history.html

mac,

Right you are.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 2 December 2012 10:23:18 AM
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Bazz,
You've got the theory partly right but nobody says that one group "replaced" another, only that there were several races of people living here at the time of British colonisation, genocide is impossible, one group cannot wipe out another and leave no trace, it shows up in the MTDNA because the normal practice of ancient humans was to capture women and children from defeated groups and blend them into the tribe.
Poirot,
The out of Africa theory is anachronistic and motivated by religious and political ideology ie the "Garden Of Eden" , the more modern multiregional hypotheses proliferate because the evidence coming from places like Israel, Spain,Central Asia and China contradicts the "We're all Africans" propaganda.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/science/400000-year-old-human-remains-found-in-israel-48702.html
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 3 December 2012 6:14:19 AM
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