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Religion do we need it?

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Dear Josephus,

Give unto Caesar what is his (and notwithstanding, unto God what is His):

Those poor guys like Dawkins find nothing of importance but the objective world, which is only an infinitesimal slice of the reality of God. However, when it comes to that particular slice of reality, within their realm of speciality, they know about it better than you and me. Yes, it is vanity, but scientists concentrate on it day and night, so give them their due - that coin is theirs!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 17 December 2012 9:30:28 AM
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Josephus,

If you don’t mind allow me to correct you on a few of your assertions.

Richard Dawkins is not “attempt(ing) to prove there is no God”. He does ask that religious people provide proof for their particular god though.

The uppercase ‘G’ you used for ‘God’ refers to the Christian God. Richard Dawkins doesn't accept there are any gods, including the Christian version.

Richard Dawkins is not a theoretical physicist or a cosmologist and it is highly doubtful he postulated a positive/negative energy scenario. You may be confusing him with Lawrence Krauss who is a physicist and who has postulated this. This is a reasonable idea by Krauss and no one is expected to believe it as a truth and no one will go to hell if they don’t.

Richard Dawkins is not obsessed by science but rightly sees it as the best method for understanding nature, thus reality. This can greatly enhance purpose in this life instead of wasting it waiting for the imaginary next one.

Because the process for the beginning of the universe, if there was one, is hard to establish, is no reason to jump to a god did it. Excuse my French, but there is bugger-all reason to think that.

David
Posted by Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc, Monday, 17 December 2012 9:38:19 AM
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Long before the three different Gods that came from the pens of middle eastern story tellers we had Gods.
Christmas was first a heathen holiday.
My family will be getting together so it will be much like that here.
Thought about a naked Bacchanalia party but re thought, if her up the road came would be no room for the rest.
Have a great festival
Posted by Belly, Monday, 17 December 2012 5:33:39 PM
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Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc
I suggest you examine the recent TV presentation on SBS where Dawkins proposes that to create a hill you have to create a hole so one cancells the other out to have energy you must also have an equal field of negative energy. So in effect there is no energy as negative energy cancells any positive energy equalling zero energy.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 6:34:47 AM
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Belly,
I suggest you look for a worthy character to admire, one with pure motives and who brings real benefits to society; in him you will find the nature of God.

St Nicholas is also recognised at this time because of his quiet giving of gifts to the poor. It is the spirit of the person we admire and recognise as divine. St Nicholas was not a god, but expressed the generosity and heart of God.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 6:49:21 AM
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"I suggest you examine the recent TV presentation on SBS where Dawkins proposes that to create a hill..."

Josephus, it was Stephen Hawking. The clue was the wheelchair.
Posted by WmTrevor, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 8:05:44 AM
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