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Posted by Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc, Thursday, 13 December 2012 9:11:20 AM
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Dear David,
<<Explain in the English language we use on Earth how can a god that does not exist be insulted or have a holy name?>> Surely God is not insulted - it's God's holy name which is insulted, in other words, deprecated when people reduce it to refer to something that exists, to an yet another object. Shouldn't it be obvious that God's holy name exists? Billions of people use it, some daily, some weekly, some in awe and reverence, others in contempt, some think it's a good name, other's that it's bad, while many don't even have a clue what they're talking about, yet they all use it. Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:47:37 AM
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Yuyutsu,
Here is your statement: “God does not exist” Here you clarify the male gender of the god which does not exist: “His holy name” You are telling me that because people use the name of this god that doesn't exist in various ways, the name is insulted. A name of a non existing anything cannot be insulted. You have led us back to persons in white coats. David Posted by Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc, Thursday, 13 December 2012 12:20:25 PM
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>>Naturally, the senses of this human whom I/God used to mistakenly call "I" are likely to continue sending chemo-electric signals to the brain of that human and that human is still likely to respond, but what has that to do with Me?<<
Quite a lot because unless you have a dissociative disorder you are that human. >>That would make no difference when you ARE the bus-stop.<< ROFLMAO People aren't bus-stops dude. Except this bloke :) http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10523288 Cheers, Tony Posted by Tony Lavis, Thursday, 13 December 2012 2:55:16 PM
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"Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii"
Why that's as bad as Zappa's kids, "Moon Unit" and "Dweezil". I was always a little suspect of "Hercule", but it's grown on me. (Inspector Morse's first name was "Endeavour") Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 13 December 2012 3:17:25 PM
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I'm sure I've seen this schtick before, Yuyutsu.
>>I have no idea, perception doesn't come into it. Awareness of my true identity as God does not rely on perception. Naturally, the senses of this human whom I/God used to mistakenly call "I" are likely to continue sending chemo-electric signals to the brain of that human and that human is still likely to respond, but what has that to do with Me?<< Ah, yes. Douglas Adams. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Fit the Twelfth. You're the man in the shack, aren't you. <script> ZARNIWOOP: How long have you been ruling the universe? MAN IN SHACK: Ah! This is a question about the past, is it? ZARNIWOOP: Yes. MAN IN SHACK: How can I tell that the past isn’t a fiction designed to account for the discrepancy between my immediate physical sensations and my state of mind? ZARNIWOOP: Do you answer all questions like this? MAN IN SHACK: I say what it occurs to me to say when I think I hear people say things. More, I cannot say. ZAPHOD: Oh that clears it up: he’s a weirdo. ZARNIWOOP: No, Listen. People come to you, yes? MAN IN SHACK: I think so. ZARNIWOOP: And they ask you to take decisions about wars, about economies, about people, about everything going on out there in the Universe? MAN IN SHACK: I only decide about my universe. My universe is what happens to my eyes and ears - anything else is surmise and hearsay: for all I know these people may not exist. You may not exist. I say what it occurs to me to say. </script> Rumbled. Posted by Pericles, Friday, 14 December 2012 11:12:14 AM
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I'm not sure if I should continue with you or be calling for the people in white coats. But for the sake of investigating a part of the spectrum of the human mind navigating at the peripherals of sanity, I’ll persevere a little while longer. No offense meant.
“Although it's true that God does not exist either…”
“Claiming that He does exist (which sadly many theists do) is an insult to His holy name.”
Explain in the English language we use on Earth how can a god that does not exist be insulted or have a holy name?
David