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Religion do we need it?

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Belly,
Sorry to inform you I actually believe in science. So I am not sure where you assume my reasoning falacious.
Genesis 1
Beginning of time when matter and space became being
The creation of matter and space from nothing
Light from chemical friction.
Emergence of life from the existing chemistry
The spirit of man to reflect creativity.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 6:22:20 AM
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I do not challenge your intelligence.
It shows and speaks for its self.
History is full of brilliant folk who believed, in different Gods.
Can you however not see the things I fear about belief in God?
In another thread I spoke of my total disgust in us being flim flamed by freedom of religion, those of us who do not believe are told if we fear Islam, they have the right to religious freedoms,we most likely sail close to the wind in saying we are unhappy about them.
May I too say I am unsure how any follower of any God, can be comfortable in denying the other Gods.
In doing so, do we not say men are not equal?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 9:00:10 AM
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Dear Belly,

<<May I too say I am unsure how any follower of any God, can be comfortable in denying the other Gods.
In doing so, do we not say men are not equal?>>

Many claim that what's on their plate is better than what's on your plate, others claim that their house or their car or their clothes or their behaviour or their body are better than their neighbour's, so what's different about saying that one's god is superior than another's?

Men are not equal, never were - but WE are equal!

If you think of yourself and of myself and of Josephus as men (or women), then it is obvious that we are not equal - some are short some are tall, some thin some fat, some old some young, some more intelligent than others, some more healthy than others, some more rich than others, some more honest and law-abiding than others and some also closer to God than others.

The only sense in which we are equal is in the ultimate reality of what we are, that beyond appearances, including the human appearance, we are God - this, and nothing short of this, is what makes us deserving of dignity. I bow down to God that you are.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 9:36:04 AM
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Y I am unable to send the verbal ball back over the net in your game of verbal tennis.
But here is how I think, India,courtesy of religion, has many classes of people.
And while never my target are the Catholic Children victims of their church equal to the perpetrators.
Is a wish that *ALL humanity be one* wrong? Achievable under the weight of its Gods?
I think the inner greatness of humanity , if given the chance can do any thing.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 3:56:05 PM
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Dear Belly,

<<Is a wish that *ALL humanity be one* wrong?>>

All humanity is already one - one in God, so I don't understand what exactly it is that you wish for, but most of all I don't understand WHY you would want to wish such a thing.

Do you wish all humans to occupy the same body? live in the same house? ride the same car? have the same spouse?

<<Achievable under the weight of its Gods?>>

This is not achievable, with or without gods, it goes against nature (unless of course there is only one human left in the whole universe).

<<I think the inner greatness of humanity , if given the chance can do any thing.>>

Any thing? Do you mean live forever, build time-machines, colonise black holes, reverse gravity and entropy, exceed the speed of light and otherwise modify the law of physics, things like that? In other words, do you consider humanity to be a god?

I have one more question for you: why just humanity, if you want everyone to be one, then why exclude and discriminate against animals and plants and planets?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 2:56:16 AM
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Y we will get no results if you ,maintain that style of posting.
Reminds me of a cat playing with a mouse.
Now you are I am sure, well aware of my intention that humanity be one.
But for the games sake lets see.
One race knowing all are equal.
No God or one, invented to unite not divide.
A world thats ee,s no need to celebrate difference.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 5:18:14 AM
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