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Live Export Debacle

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meanwhile daily babies are slaughtered in the womb put the press are not interested. What are warped world.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 9:45:00 AM
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*It is best just not to do business with them.*

Except Bazz, it is totally unrealistic. Fact is that agriculture
is already the most distorted form of trade that there is, due
to huge subisides paid by rich Govts like the EU, US, Japan and
all the rest.

So Australian farmers are essentially competing with the taxpayers
of these rich countries and need every market available.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 11:36:05 AM
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Understood Yabby,
There has to be a solution that they will understand.
For example, a vet clearance at time of sailing, if and only if they
have paid for the cargo.
They will not like it, but the reason stated would be their renigging
on valid cargoes.
Alternatively, insurance against rejection could then be added to the cost.
If other suppliers are prepared to take the uninsured risk, let them.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 12:07:12 PM
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Live export was wrong from the start, Slaughter here and send boxed meat .
Or send beef carcass meat Quartered.
Or send sheep telescoped, as was the case before live export.
Posted by 579, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 12:22:19 PM
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Bazz, the problem with thist last shipment was not about the money.
Bahrain had been a good customer for years. It was about a change
of politics and the way business is done in the third world.
It does not work as it works with our court system etc.

So the problem is one of animal welfare, much as happened with the
Cormo, some years ago. Those sheep need to go somewhere, humanely,
and you don't have a lot of time to sort it out.

You need a plan B in place. Now millions of sheep go to places like
Kuwait and others, without a hitch and have been doing so for years.

There is a solution to that and its relatively easy to impliment.
Turn them into fish food, after shooting them humanely. Its a far
safer plan B than any others proposed, as we can see.

It would have solved both the Cormo and Pakistan issues.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 12:31:25 PM
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Yabby,
The problemas I see it is that the copany that owned the sheep did not inform the Pakis that they had been rejected (rightly or wrongly) at the original destination. The pakis then used many made up excuses to save face. That was a comercial mistake. Hope they get paid on delivery for each consignment as their customers do not seem reliable or trustworthy.

I see the ship only took 11 days to get from WA to ME, then in future why not load a bit more feed and immediatly bring the sheep back, if rejection occurs. I know how much feed it takes to feed that many sheep, but i also can estimate the manpower and facilities required to humanely destroy that many sheep. The sheep could be put through our feed lots again and back into system.

Someone questioned the fate of the dairy breeders enroute to Pakistan. These are young breeders so are destined to be part of a dairy producing milk for their lifetime. They are very expensive and not easily obtained, so not very likely to be rejected on a whim or political reason.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 1:03:25 PM
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