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Live Export Debacle

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579, the Pakistani Govt is accountable and that is why Gillard
has asked their PM to launch an inquiry. We shall see what that
reveals. Cruelty to animals is in fact against the laws of Islam.

The industry has taken a stand, no slaughter animals to go to
Pakistan or Bahrain.

I've given you the solution, next time turn the sheep into fish
food, even though our vegans will protest loudly at that, for
no good reason. They protest about everything, short of taking
every animal home for a cuddle. If only life were that simple.
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 11 November 2012 10:30:55 AM
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Of course the Pakis are to blame for the way they slaughtered the sheep. To put the blame on farmers here is completely out of context.

If someone sells a house which is then used for an illegal purpose is the house seller to blame for that. If a car dealer sells a vehicle that then has a hit and run accident, is the car dealer to blame?

It is most unfortunate that in this case the exporters plan A and then plan B both failed and it looks like both failed for political reasons.
Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 11 November 2012 10:57:46 AM
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*but say and do nothing about 5-6 year old girls here*

Banjo, I don't think that the two need to be mutally exclusive. I
think we can care about both. I know that just recently some people
in WA were taken to court over this, after having flown OS to get
the operation done and then came back here.

What pisses me off right now is the absolute fantasy claims being
made by the animal rights brigade, over and over, which are pure
rubbish.

No the industry never cost 40'000 jobs. Fact is the industry
automated. Today you have auto skin pullers, robots and all the rest,
working in meat plants.

No, Australia would not be better off, if animals were slaughtered
here. Otherwise they could buy them and do just that. But first they
need a buyer. Once again we have tariff barriers all over the place.

No, the sheep don't all suffer on the boats. Today we have a number of
purpose built ships, with very good conditions. Animals would not
be gaining weight, if they were stressed.

Yes, some deaths will occur onboard, as they do in the paddocks or
the feedlots. 1-2% is quite acceptable, as it is in the paddocks and
the feedlots. Ruminants develop all sorts of problems. Anyone who
has run livestock knows that. Qualified livestock vets will tell you
that. But it just won't sink in with our animal liberation people.

Look at the changes now happening in Indonesia. We have gone from
10% stunning to 90% stunning. Sorry, but that is real progress.

I hear this rubbish again and again. People see a truck with a
couple of legs sticking out and the animals must be suffering. Well
I can tell you if I put a few lambs on a truck, too loose and they
will fall over. But even then, some will stick their legs out, not
much different to kids doing the same out of the school bus
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 11 November 2012 1:19:21 PM
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Process meat here. Or bury it here. Savages can not be trusted.
Posted by 579, Monday, 12 November 2012 12:45:07 PM
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In that case 579, we'd better not trust you with having kids, a
partner or a dog, in case you are a savage. We'd better take your
license off you too, in case you drink and drive and kill people.
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 12 November 2012 1:55:57 PM
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Yabby we are talking about a serious situation. I am not an animal liber.
I want to see our sheep treated properly.
So it's best to have a plan ready.
To make meat meal out of them they have to be skun. There is probably an export for that. Specially if mixed with blood meal, to raise the protean level. Sheep tallow could be made into diesel fuel, or in place of coal.
I reckon a market could be found for mutton legs, somewhere. If i knew where to get mutton i would bye it.
Posted by 579, Monday, 12 November 2012 2:22:32 PM
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