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Live Export Debacle

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*we are talking about a serious situation*

So are child abuse, spouse abuse, pet abuse and victims of drink.

If you have the answers, there is a thing called a market. You are
free to show us all how its done. Buy the sheep and demonstrate
your brilliant ideas.

The Greens have just come up with their brilliant 5 point plan.
So let them go ahead and demonstrate it, make it happen. But
city slickers have a record of being so bad at value adding
agricultural products, that IMHO they will be useless and fail.

So the live trade is an insurance policy for farmers and there is
no good reason to ban it, if you can't come up with an alternative
that actually works and is not just dreaming.

Your comment that you'd rather see sheep buried, reflects your
real disdain for farmers and their livelyhoods. I guess you won't
be going into the outback to shoot those cattle who die miserable
deaths due to no water and food, which would happen if the live trade
shut.
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 12 November 2012 2:57:56 PM
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579 it has already been explained to you! They are not your sheep! they are not your sheep they are owned by the person who BOUGHT them. Again when you sell a house or a car you SELL it! it is not yours, it has new ownership, THEY ARE NOT YOURS!
Of course the animal welfare issue is different but Australia does not rule the world and Animals Australia can go to Pakistan and protest if they want, I wish they would, I really wish they would!
Alternatively Animals Australia can go and buy all the sheep and cattle and then....... then what, perhaps they can tell us?
Posted by JBowyer, Monday, 12 November 2012 3:01:29 PM
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Sounds to me you are not about to talk alternative methods of dealing with your old stock. Who owns the sheep does not come into it.
The sheep are a living body, that is where the difference is.
If they can not be trusted to have a proper slaughter, the future may not be ideal.
Posted by 579, Monday, 12 November 2012 3:26:13 PM
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Well 579, we have an alternate method. We are farmers, we produce
food, we don't come to your house to cook it for you.

If Australian companies are unwilling or unable to buy livestock
and process them, the alternate is to put them on a boat where
they gain weight, a floating feedlot. They are then slaughtered
through the ESCAS system, which is working well. They go to
various markets, including Kuwait, which has rejected no shipments.

But because there was a problem in Pakistan, you now think we should
close down the trade to Kuwait. That all sounds a bit racist to me,
you seem to think all brown skinned people should now not be trusted.

I just wonder how you would take it, if some country would not deal
with us, because we are neighbours with New Zealand.
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 12 November 2012 4:38:32 PM
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