How about we pay a $100.000 reward for every smuggler convicted and sentenced?
Belly,
I have a better idea. How about $100,000.- reward for everyone who can convert a Labor voter to come to their senses & help the Coalition to right Labor's wrongs ?
It would be more morally right to reward a sensible coalition voter to make things right than keep rewarding Labor supporters for snowballing this incompetence.

It's an exercise is futility debating you people on this subject. Your minds are already made up, based on your ideology. "Some" Australians are heartless and cruel, and they don't care ... they lead powerless lives and it makes them feel strong and in control by being anti refugee.

Just hope that Australia is never invaded, or involved in an internal war, and that YOUR daughter, son, uncle, cousin, child etc etc doesn't become a refugee. THEN you'd change your heartless and inhumane fixed attitudes.

By the way, they are NOT "illegals". That term is used as a personal abuse towards refugees by some people here on this forum. Most people here have the basic intelligence to know that it's 100% LEGAL for any refugee to enter Australian territory, via any means whatsoever. Why do they use it as a personal abuse? Well, what does "h a t e" spell, what does "f e a r" spell and what does "p a r a n o i a" spell? That's your answer.

But nonetheless, carry on with your insular attitudes. "Fortress Australia" is alive and well in the minds of "some" people ... the extreme and personal attitudes on this forum towards refugees represent only a small minority of Australians, and are ideologically based. Most Australians have more decency.

Hay Pete, I believe I'm, about as flexible as you mate. Do you think we can change your opinion? I guess you don't believe a democracy should be for the majority, unless you're it.

You see we don't believe it will take a warlike invasion, for our kids to become refugees in their own country, just more of your bleeding heart rubbish, & Labors incompetence, accidental, or designed, filling the place up with uninvited gate crashers.

Just hope that Australia is never invaded,
DiamondPete,
You can't be serious !! What do you think this whole ugly business is all about ? We ARE being invaded right now, right under our noses or is your nose that high up that you can't see past the bottom frame of your pink-coloured glasses ?
Geez, some people really need to have reality whacked into their heads before they understand.

Diamond Pete,
You are a fool. Being anti the illegals does not give me a feeling of power, frustration if anything. Frustrated because this bloody government stuffed up and put out the welcome mat for the shonks to gate crash our country. You are basicly saying that we should welcome these intruders or with your inside knowledge of Labor, it was a deliberate move to allow the illegals to invade us.

For you information, it is illegal for any non citizen to enter Aus without a valid visa, That is why we can and do lock them up. We do not lock up or detain persons that enter legally. This fact has been posted here many times with reference to the Immigration Act and reference from the DIAC website. You are obviously very ignorant.

The illegals are con artist cheats and frauds who buy their way here, and paying far more than the normal air fare to get in the back door. They do so with the deliberate intention of deceiving us. That is why I dislike them and want them stopped.

Belly>> Both sides need a kick in the ring, now <<

Why both sides? The Libs will vote for the Howard govt solution if Labor present it, it worked.

Thanks for identifying that the economic refugees are a problem and thanks for acknowledging that it is the result of failed Labor policy. But no kudos sport for blaming the Libs as well, they are not the majority.

Belly I have no issue with Malaysia, it may have worked and the deal would have seen genuine refugees finding a home in Australia as part of our annual intake.

But without temporary protection visas and off shore processing we still have an open boarder. Below is what a TPV dictates and it is a fitting deterent for a queue jumper who pays a smuggler and throws away their identification.

>> People granted TPVs are not allowed to re-renter Australia should they choose to leave, and their family members living in other countries are not allowed to visit or join them here. They are barred from accessing the Job Network and funded English programs. They have limited access to health, education and community services.
Temporary Protection Visas (TPVs) is a hot term when considered to be a disincentive designed for asylum seekers who arrive in Australia without a valid visa. Distress is caused to TPV holders by the restrictive conditions under which they have to live, the inability to reunite with their family, uncertainty of their future status and the potential threat of being deported to a country in which their safety is at risk.<<

It was Kev not Howard or Abbott that dismantled a working policy so the soft matey dig at "both sides" is a crock china.