Paul at least I do address the problems of my party.
Truly I have NEVER SEEN you do that.
Labor has lost its way, policy's are good, mostly.
But the knifing of Rudd, the blind heedless support for Gillard, a refusal to take the Greens on head on harm us.
You joke, off course, in saying you are too close to us, if you stood on the moon it would be too close for my wishes.
Labor will recover, will get the hope of 2007 back.
Paul my constant point, one you should consider, is being up front in my demands for better from my party serves it better than pretending every thing is alright.
Your party,at its peak, never to rise this high again, could today, let the Malaysian solution pass.
Let the poker machine trial start, let the small business tax breaks pass.
However, intent on any thing but consensus, waste the votes that came to them.
Above all, this gets me in trouble, every time,unfairly,your party taints mine and Paul,tell me I am wrong/lie More would never vote for or trust Greens than do, many more, 500 percent more at least!

Not at all SM and Banjo ,the Abbott opposition are clearly and openly playing the dirtiest type of political cards , the race one for example.

Although our country's sentiment and prospects are now regarded Internationally today by the IMF, as having the brightest outlook of all countries regarding the future. Our financial Rating is AAA from all agencies for the first time in our history.

And yet the Abbott team falsely portray's the economy, using words like crisis and catastrophic debt etc ad infinitum. This is where the fantasy exists.

The question is can it be sustained until an election in 2013, when the Abbott opposition must finally reveal what it plans are for our future (no doubt), with insufficient time again to digest the substance. Add a little more lathering up of the electorate over boat people and voila. This is what they did at the last election and that is what they plan to do at the next.

If the NBN can be just left alone too be completed, to become what it will be, then Australia will have leapt into the future with a publicly owned infrastructure asset that should me marked "never to be sold by the Coalition".

Forgetting minor parties, Independents and leadership, Wayne Swan's tenure as treasurer throughout Rudd and Gillard Govt's, has the runs on the board.

Joe Hockey has presented nil costings for their basically wish list policies or even explained how these promises would funded thus far. Thanks Joe for keeping us informed, see what I mean ?, it does wear thin after a while, and its been going on since before the last election in fact back to the day that Tony Abbott became leader.

Can it be continued to the next election result. I don't think it can be, and consequently nor can the Abbott leadership be sustained , or provide LNP with a real chance of winning in the long run.

Funny thing is it seems , that the only people in Australia with leadership problems worse than the Labor Gov't is the Lib/Nat Federal Parliamentary team.

Dear Thinker 2,

Yes, Yes, and again Yes!
Well said - and so true!
Bravo!

Lexi,

Perhaps you could explain your debating rules to T2. Perhaps providing a smidgeon of evidence rather than only wild opinion would help.

Thank you dear Lexi,

cheers T2

Dear Shadow Minister,

And this from a man who supports a party
full of noise and no substance. And keeps on
repeating the party mantra over and over again
to us. Now that's what I call "really wild!"