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Labor Gaining In Polls.

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Given the lies and deceit of Thomson and Juliar, being on the left or politics (or a lefty) is something to be ashamed of.

With regards this thread and Labor supposedly gaining in the polls:

"QUEENSLANDERS are waiting to smash Labor out of the state.

Support for federal Labor has collapsed to a mere 23 per cent in Queensland, the latest Galaxy poll conducted exclusively for The Courier-Mail shows. No federal Labor MPs would be left in the Sunshine State if this result were repeated at the next election.

And the majority of voters say this humiliation would be just desserts for Labor. Almost 60 per cent of respondents to the poll said Labor deserved to be reduced to a rump of one or two seats in Queensland.

Under Julia Gillard, Labor's primary vote has, for the second time, fallen to the lowest level recorded in the history of the Galaxy poll."
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 5:21:17 AM
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SM loves them polls conducted by those fish wrappers,particularly if they favor his conservative bunch.
SM is like a politician, if a poll favors him, say his approval rating in the latest Roy Ratbag survey as published in the Oonadatta Fish Wrapper was 123%, the polly will say "Great poll, great stuff, the people love me, got to love them polls." However if next month after a story has broken in the Oonadatta Fish Wrapper that the very same politician has been having an illicit affair with a tabby cat and Roy Ratbag's poll now shows his approval rating at -47% the poll will say "I never did trust them polls, after all they started WWII, the only poll I'm interested in is the one that counts."
If SM calls you a lefty don't be perturbed, he still thinks there is a possibility of your salvation, you are merely misguided and one day you will most likely come to your senses and return to the conservative fold. However should he brand you a communist, there is no hope of your conservative salvation what so ever you will be cast into the Bolshevik hell, to be tormented forever by Satan himself Karl Marks.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 8:41:38 AM
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I came across the following link this morning.
It sums up rather well the political mess that we're
all currently seeing:

http://newmatilda.com/2012/05/22/thomson-scandal-future-oz-politics
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 10:31:43 AM
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Hi Lexi,

New Matilda SM will be branding you a commo LOL. Does the Parliament necessarily have to apply the principle of 'the presumption of innocence' to members as it is not a court of law where such a principle rightly applies. Should not a member who is guilty of bring the parliament into disrepute be suspended from parliament until they have cleared their name through due process. An adverse finding by the house privileges committee and once voted on by a majority of the parliament, a joint sitting of both houses, should be enough to have a member suspended from the house. I know political bias can and will come into play, but a detailed factual report by the privileges committee should be required, with dissenting comment, this report should be placed before the parliament. Suspending a member for what may be a long period is not something our polly's should take lightly.
I can't support the notion that a politician has the right to sit in parliament until he is basically locked up in jail. No more than the notion that a Scout Leader accused of you know what can remain so until found guilty and locked up. Its absurd! i'm trying to present this on a non political bases.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 11:54:00 AM
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Thank you, Lexi,

The comments and excuses on New Matilda should be closely studied by first-year students in logic and public relations spin. There is some fascinating stuff there.

So what is Thomson alleged to have done that may be illegal ? The NSW police says that he has not broken the law by using his credit card to pay thousands of dollars for prostitutes, that's not illegal. So what else ?

* using a union credit card, i.e. union funds, not his own, the contributions of Filipina hospital cleaners and Indian ambulance-drivers on sh!tty wages, to pay for prositutes;

* sliding hundreds of thousands of dollars of union money over to his re-election campaign;

* employing relations (feather-bedding ?) on union money;

* employing other friends on union money to work on his re-election campaign;

* being on the take from a printing company to the tune of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars of union money;

* using union money to fly his wife around in luxury, to buy presents for her, etc.

* using union money to pay for re-election publicity material.

Of course, you may say that he is completely innocent of any of these charges. At least until he is found guilty of some, if not all, of them. And Abbott will probably be solely responsible for that happening.

In his defence, it may be suggested that he hasn't done anything especially wrong for a union official or a Labor Psrty functionary, but I couldn't possibly comment on that.

Thankfully, none of this is having any effect on the polls, which show a steady improvement in support for the Gillard government, says FP72E, from another planet.
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 12:11:58 PM
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Thomson is a cancer in the side of the unions and Labor, and until he is cut out from parliament, or resigns, the issue is going to remain, and the association will be Labor = corruption.

With the damming report from FWA (the statutory body headed by a retired judge responsible for these affairs) after a 3 year investigation, due process has been followed and the time for calls for presumption of innocence has passed.

Thomson has claimed innocence and that this was all an elaborate set up, yet cannot provide a single witness, a single piece of paper, or any other shred of evidence to even suggest his innocence. All we have is innuendo and his word, which given his previous lies to FWA is worthless.

While Thomson still stands in parliament, just about everything else labor does will be obscured.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 2:40:24 PM
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