I see parallels today Banjo with the Abbott opposition playing the dirtiest political game I have ever witnessed. I'm hoping it doesn't work.

Just the prospect of Attack Dog Tony (refer FP72E page 1 ) being a prospective candidate for PM is concern enough, let alone the prospect of him actually succeeding.

Thinker2,

The Abbott and coalition you describe exist only in your mind. You need to create monsters to enable you to continue to support the nightmare that Juliar's administration has become. Labor MPs now face abuse when door knocking from the antics of the lying troll and Labor's corrupt ministers.

Then you get all precious about the coalitions tactics against the carbon tax which are a copy of those used against work choices.

What is good for the gander is good for the goose.

Thinker,
For a person with such a pen name, you certainly are a dreamer. They are fantasies. As Banjo said "I my wild erratic fancy, vissions come to me of Clancy"

You are wrong again. Belly and I are the same vintage, we agree on some things and disagree on others but that is OK. One thing I do know is that we are both practical blokes.

The political situation that Labor are now in is entirely their own doing, brought about by rash, idealistic decission making and incompedence. Those who blame the media and/or the opposition are merely fooling themselves and need to have a fresh look at what has taken place in the last few years of Labor. I think Labor has backed the wrong horse in supporting the AGW theory and the carbon tax. Then created the millstone around their own neck by changing the policy on the illegal boat people, it was unnessessary and rash.

Interesting to see what happens with the NBN.

Dreaming will not fix the problems of the ALP.
Slandering them will not go away.
Abbott is as I claim, in fact worse, it would not be acceptable to put my true opinion of him here in print.
Yet,with out doubt, some in his party, share every view I have about him.
A great chasm awaits him, any day media focuses on his words acts and plans.
Our thread starts by informing us Liberals lost 6 points, then pole dances in joy!
Labor got three of them.
Who got the other 3?
After a good Labor budget, cash in the right pockets,after Abbott told us he did not trust mums and dads? we gained ONLY 3%
A very real chance Labor can win exists, POST GILLARD.
It needs to be soon, any early revival in Labors polling is counter productive to our chances.
Taking Julie to an election is taking road kill to a Macas and offering it as breakfast.
Watch the next polls,and the one after, Abbott is behaving badly, but if Gillard holds her personal polling, bad as it is, prepare for an ALP white wash as gutless parliamentarians ignore party's fate.
When did this country have two so very wrong leaders to pick from?
When , not excluding the 1970,s was our news reporting be in the hands of more unbalanced and uninformed commentators/news manufacturing slugs?

Belly, the budget failed to ignite the voters in Labor's favor. This week the Thomson Affair will push the Labor vote down. The party is looking at a NSW style catastrophe when ever an election is called, and it may well be sooner rather than later.
There has been a huge shift away from Labor in many parts of Australia over a long period of time. My own seat of Kingford Smith was safe ALP under Lionel Bowen, even in the darkest days of the Whitlam government Lionel could pull 65% of the primary vote, today Garrett commands 45% and the seat is now marginal with no significant boundary changers. I think the seat will fall to the Liberals at the next election for the first time ever.
I note the polls show the Green vote is holding up well, despite our 'close', and I say to close, association with the Labor brand.

"Dreaming will not fix the problems of the ALP."
Belly the ALP is a nightmare. Can you explain why? Not only Federally but in the States NSW, Qld others and at the Local level Wollongong etc. The Labor attracts too many of the wrong type of people and like the sludge they are, they rise to the top. I got out years ago and found the Greens.
Here in NSW local elections are coming up in September, going to be interesting. Might even throw my had into the ring, bit old but the local Labor controlled council could do with a shake up, got a few young ones interested, want to have a go, their hearts are in the right place, just need a steady hand.