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Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 3:51:09 PM
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Well folks - I've done the best I can.
I've provided you with a link that I thought summed things up rather well. I do believe in due process - and the man is entitled to that. I do believe that eventually the truth will come out. In the meantime we can argue this case according to the media's take on things, the political games that are being played, and our own political inclinations. That won't solve anything - except aggravating each other. Of course we could all take a step back - and wait for the charges to be filed - and for the case to be heard in the courts. But that would probably spoil the fun for some of you. So as you were - carry on. Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 9:10:19 PM
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You're right, Lexi, we should await the court's expeditious verdict on each of the charges that are likely to be made against Thomson.
I agree with Tony Winsor that the Parliament should not be used to expel a member - otherwise, in the future, a government with, say, a one-vote-majority, could use its numbers to order the removal of a particularly vocal and competent member of the opposition, in order to shore up its strength. Of course, as soon as Thomson has been found to have committed one of the offences, or an offence at a level at which the Handbook deems sufficient to warrant expulsion, then it will be all systems go, and fair enough. He's out, and so will be the Gillard government. But until then, Thomson is in that limbo-land between innocent and guilty - as Heffernan or Slipper might be if they charged with GBH or sexual harassment respectively. Let's hope that the wheels of justice grind as rapidly and as efficiently as possible. Love and best wishes, Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 9:50:40 PM
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Thomson is in limbo between being everyone knowing he is guilty and being convicted.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 24 May 2012 4:41:36 AM
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Shadow ministers post is right.
And until, and it will happen, he is judged by other than frantic Abbott's team of miss fits it should stay that way. In saying that I am not defending him, or any thing other than this country's legal system. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-news/greens-senator-lee-rhiannon-red-faced-over-poison-pen-attack-on-her-own-party/story-fn7q4q9f-1226364992039 I post this link for Paul 1405, and those holly followers of the greens. It again highlights that they are not well served by this woman, or for that matter many within their VW Combi van. an ex Trotsky Marxist Leninist, I think some will be pleased at this passing of wind in the Combi. Posted by Belly, Thursday, 24 May 2012 5:40:33 AM
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Here is the reality, Thomson would not be sitting in Parliament if Labor commanded a thumping majority, Thomson would have be cut adrift months ago, told to resign, you know, po, get out, dcm, what ever he would not be there now. Labor would have lost a by-election in the seat of Dobell. Abbott would have spilled a bit of Labor blood, Gillard would have been hosing down the fire, presumably with Thomson well out of the picture and life would go on. This crap about 'presumption of innocence' would have hardly got a mention as Thomson would have been hung out to dry. All Windsor is doing is trying to make himself look good in this whole affair, as he knows he is a dead duck in the seat of New England. Craig Thomson would have more chance now of winning New England as a candidate for the Communist Party than Tony Windsor has as an Independent. Windsor is a hypocrite.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 24 May 2012 7:37:33 AM
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Know his old boss is too.
Think after considering all things Jackson is too.
But be warned, he Will be found not guilty of some charges.
Here is the problem, he will face court, but has not yet.
Given the figures being thrown around, some of Abbott's claims,and Pynes are lies, ones they both know are so,and should face the Parliaments privileges committee for, deliberately, knowingly, lieing.
First I am not defending him, ever.
I helped remove a grub such as him, started that ball rolling.
Most at home with rank and file members, considering my self thus forever,I am the enemy for life of those parasites riding on union backs.
BUT, expenditure on winning his seat was not illegal, my branch put far too much in to winning a state seat, it was known by branch auditors and no dirt in it.
Labor/union things like this take place.
500.000? not true.
Kick backs? for one yes this bloke?
Do we lynch him now or wait.
Watch the results then act courts come before conviction or we have no legal system.