Dear Belly,

Hells' Angels and Commancheros bikie gangs are
Lebanese? Come-on. Not in Melbourne, South Australia
and NSW they're not!

In this country we've had our share of bank robbers,
drug traffickers, crime families (Morans and Pettingill),
gangsters, fraudsters, murderers, serial killers,
child-sex offenders, rapists and others.

To blame any entire ethnic group - be it Irish, or
Lebanese is what I find disturbing and then to suggest
that we should curtail these "alien" groups from
coming to this country because of the criminals amongst
them - is equally disturbing. Criminals are criminals
and exist amongst the entire spectrum of nationalities.
The causes for their behaviour are many and varied - and
I'm not trying to deny that we don't have problems
dealing with criminal activity - or that these problems
don't exist. I simply don't believe that blaming just one
group - when there are several involved - is the answer.
The issue is far more complex then that.
And as several articles
have pointed out - cutting back on police numbers in
NSW - doesn't help things either.

cont'd ...

Take a look at the history of crime in Australia
from the early 1900s. Should we get rid of the
Irish, the Italians, the Greeks, and the English,
as well as many others - because of the criminal
elements amongst them? We'd end up with no
population. But then again - perhaps the
Indigenous people will get their tribal lands back.

Wahoo!

Lexi and her posts are of importance to this thread and its complex subjects.
Very few informed folk are not aware of recent convictions for murder and the ancestry of those involved.
And even less, of us who read multiple news sources[ I find it wasteful to read one sided constructed junk like anything Murdock owns or Matilda].
Knows even within the Lebanese community, the behavior of these second and third generation Australians,is feared and considered out of control.
In research,I only need to try, I found evidence that in 1995 NSW Police Politicians, had been up to their eyes, in drug crime, protect,ting it.
Documentation ,said clearly it was Lebanese crime gangs then as now.
BUT THOSE we trust! protecting them, for cash!
I even found from 2002 from here OLO articles taking the opposite view to mine,saying as Lexi has, it may look like a fact feel like one be one, but lets say it is not in any case!
So why is my respected Friend, hopefully still,of use in this thread.
If we want to address this issue,fix it, be innovative and kill corruption by changing drug laws and changing prison sentences.
We must step over many Lexis,and even more profiting from drugs.
Not bog down defending truth.
Biker gangs are in harness with these crime gangs a Lebanese biker group, who mostly do not ride Bikes is the heart of it.
I wait to hear comment on links that are evidence the claims are true,and say defending folk who are not part of this, blindly, is not addressing the issues.

Dear Belly,

I am not defending criminals - of whatever
persuasion they may be. What I am objecting
to is sweeping statements and generalisations
made about ethnic groups because of the criminals
amongst their midst. You seem to misunderstand me
and that does not help address the issues either.

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=3962
This link is one from here OLO.
Is that ok Graham?
Not from a white racist Aussie.
Not sure but just maybe some truth can be found here, if we look.
Worth us all remembering,we are being read, now and in the future, and just a few should think about that, saw a needless use of filth just the other day.

Dear Belly,

I read the article link from OLO that you
provded on the "Lebanese problem." I
especially found the comments particularly
interesting from posters. Especially from
RObert - who in his usual way summed things
up rather well by suggesting that we have to
look at "what specific problems are leading
to the problems..." And that - "our mission
is to try to tread our way through that maze
and come up with solutions that work."

Hear, hear.