The second but vital part of this problem, therefore the thread is terms spent in prison.
I knew the streets of Granville and Auburn, my cousins, all 13 of them spent most of their childhoods in Lakemba, all WASPS.
It is said on those streets today you get 3 crimes before time, in prison.
And the first time is easy and short.
In the country some saw parents come from, or came them selves such crimes would see much worse sentencing.
We, maybe driven by the costs of prison, seem uncaring about crime and its victims.
Whole generations have found new ways to help the offender and ignore the victim.
Here that in the back ground? a rumble of indignation at my words starting already.
From the upper and middle class suburbs unaffected,who never even pass these crime capitals on the way to work.
If criminals have the means make them pay all costs of prison.
Higher sentencing for crimes that kill will too see less of them.
I think a whole level of judges, Magistrates, should be found from within average people.
As leaned in Suburban life as the law.
much more to come.
But law and order need not be blind and stupid as it seems now, nore should it flog.
It however should spend more time defending the victim than aggressors.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8448248
For interstate people maybe we are not as well known for our troubles.
But in researching I goggled the threads subject and got us, this thread is linked.
The link above is just one, but I did not find one that truly describes the fear.
At a market day,a stall holder who like me once lived in that area swapped story's of what it once was like.
We both went back, often in our past jobs.
To within a block of each other to just look.
One of my visits was the day after a murder by gun.
Blood still was on the road, right out side his old school tuck shop.
Real blood death and fear.

Now Belly I agree with you.

Let us get serious about the crimes and impose proper sentences.

I would do this before even considering decriminalising drug taking.

If we think supplying drugs kills then why are dealers not charged with attempted murder? The current firearms offences should be increased four fold. Anyone found in possession of an unlicenced handgun should get life. Let us get real with sentencing. Even if it means building more jails. Confiscation of all assetts should be normal practice of the courts.

The 55 year sentences seem to have stopped the gang rapes in the same area. Proof enough that stiff penalties work. Do not forget deportation of non citizens that are convicted.

http://www.australian-news.com.au/Lebanese_crime.htm
I feel justified in posting this link.
Understand some will use it to convict me.
But if 90% of the crime I highlight here is not from this base I will except the charge.
A matter such as this should not be subject to PC.
Solutions come after first finding the problem.
The problem will not be race, not alone, but something within a culture from some races, even if made here it is fact.

It's not poverty in Australia. It's laziness and greed.

It's easier for me to sell drugs and steal things than it is for me to get up at 4:30am 5 days a week and get home somewhere between 6 and 7pm. But, being the sort of person I am I go with the latter. I believe I would sleep better that way.

Shootings are a consequence of the drug and crime trade. They are for teaching people lessons. Once in awhile via accident or just some scumbag just being a scumbag, innocent people get shot too.

I made some generalisations in an earlier post, but I really wouldn't know what to do in the area Belly described. I can stay away from there, but the people who live around there can't. The government can make tougher laws, but when they hanged pickpockets in England pickpockets were operating in the crowds watching the executions.

I'm sorry I posted.