Hi there Belly...

You raise some quite interesting issues with this thread, particularly the impact that illicit drugs have on the criminallity
that is awash in the state of NSW.

I could go on (ad infinitum) in substantial detail as to what the essential problems are, but I won't.

One issue that's ALWAYS caused me some major grief - the coppers spend hundreds of man hours, in order to catch a crook or crooks, only to have 'em walk free from court, with yet another warning or less.

You put in a terrific brief - dot your i's and cross your t's, and some 'mealy mouth' magistrate will cut 'em loose with just a warning, a bond, or enter into some useless 'diversionary programme'.

Thus, you're simply adding yet another hapless individual into the 'revolving door' justice system, in this state.

Belly it's a joke. And I'm jolly glad that I'm retired and out of the mess that is laughingly described as - Policing the State of NSW.

Dear Belly,

Studies have shown that the highest crime rates
occur in the most deprived sections of large
cities. These are the areas where it's most
difficult to train children to become law-abiding
citizens. Such areas have the highest rate of
broken homes. Even in many homes where both parents
are present, emotional conflicts, and health and
financial problems affect family life. Slum areas
usually have the poorest schools and the highest
unemployment rates. These neighbourhoods have much
run-down, over-crowded housing and poor recreation
facilities.

For many young city-dwellers, the excitement of the
streets provides the principal escape from boredom
and seemingly unsolvable problems. These streets
are also the scene of much vice and crime - drug
use and sale, gambling, prostitution,
public drunkenness, and acts of violence. Law enforcement
in the inner city is difficult, partly because too few
police officers patrol the neighbourhoods. In addition,
many of the people fear the police and refuse to
cooperate with them.

Most residents of the high-crime slum areas of many
large cities are members of minority ethnic groups.
As a result, the crime rate for such minority groups
is higher than that for the majority group. The
minority groups are also more likely to become victims
of crimes. This tendency need not mean that such
minorities are more criminal. It could arise because
the lower income and less privileged social groups to
which they belong tend to bear the brunt of law
enforcement. Also, it may reflect drinking patterns,
or the fact that because of the life styles of such
groups, they are most likely to be on the streets and
in contact with police.

In many cases, most crimes are committed by boys and
young men. They are particularly likely to commit
burglaries, car thefts, and robberies.

This is a complex issue and one that doesn't have
easy answers or solutions.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/the-criminals-code-and-vigilante-violence/story-e6freuzi-1226324307538
A very different view than mine but no less frightening
Another shot last night.

o sung wo we would get along.
Lexi I do not agree, I actually think criminals activity takes place in any environment.
Only the crimes are different.
As David says he can stay away, many can not.
We will not truly debate this issue or see it, without being just a little what ever the opposite of Politically Correct is, I tend to think honest.
Auburn Gillford,Granville, all ex or maybe still NSW housing commission post ww2 areas.
For a short time in my childhood, after in my teens, then briefly with family returned from the bush, I lived there.
It was working class cosmopolitan but good and it welcomed you.
Read the tragic case of that poor little child ,stolen from her bed,it could have been any of the above places.
Mum and dad, not working 11 children on welfare.
Dad said to be, but not proven a drug dealer.
Such family's are common.
From them , a seeming self inflicted hardship, comes the crime.
I am fearless, but would not consider ever living in those places or haveing a beer in my old stamping grounds, Vauxall inn Royal Plastos Rosehill more pubs that once I knew every drinker in.
We should not fear change, should confront it, see o sung wo the truth, every day a silly lower court person sets a crying youth free yet again.
To go out side laugh and do it all over again.
TAX drugs tax the criminals by making them pay for time in prison.
Make an effort to stop corruption and why not??
PC stands between us and improvement.
No one grew up more hungry that me, more ashamed of my lack of shoes and better clothing, but I did not take to selling drugs or hurting people.
Mum and Dad saw to that

Lexi, you are way off track.
The areas involved are good quality housing, much having been rebuilt
with a mixture of unit blocks and single house blocks.
My wife grew up in the area and it was always, as Belly said a normal
Australian suburb, single level houses on 700 sq metre blocks
of land. It never was a slum at any time.
It is now no longer part of Australia.

How long before a police no go area becomes an Australian no go area ?

I read that link Belly provided and it was well worth the time to read.
I can see no alternative but to deport all Lebanese moslems, whether
born here or not. Probably not practicle, but what is the alternative
bigger, much bigger gaols ?
I have a remote relative that is a gaol warder and he tells me that
the gaols are run internally by the moslems with Asians as an
opposition group. Australians inmates are outnumbered and bullied.

Back in the old convict days those that committed crime were sent
to either Van Diemens Land or Norfolk Island and not allowed to return.
Can we not do something similar ?

Is there another island we could use instead ?
After their sentence is finished they would have to stay on the island
unless they wished to leave the country altogether.

I have a little worry in that I have noticed a few moslems appearing
in this area. I just hope they are escapees and not bringing their
criminals with them.

Reading back on what I have just written it all seems over the top
but what else can we do, wait until it reaches the point where we
end up having to bring the army in to deal with and armed insurrection ?

Sounds like the Middle East ! Hmmm oh yes of course !