6 shootings in a week, 60 in a year.
We are told a drug war is behind it and the middle east crime squad mostly investigating.
It is not the first such wave, but it is the worst.
We know of the Razor gang crimes, before we or most of us lived.
We saw the Asian crime wars and home invasions.
Early rape gangs Australian then other.
I considered this thread,before trying to get it started.
We can if you wish focus on race,it is not the main issue.
Or talk of two things with may be more substance, and maybe more responsibility for these anti social crimes against us all.
First drugs, why not go further, not the warm and cuddly decriminalize it.
But take it away from criminals totally.
Legalize it supply it, to holders of Medical certificates.
See it taken in front of Doctors,so no second distributions can take place
We can expand on that if we get a start.
PRISONS, no not the lunacy of no prisons or less of them, punishment should be equal to the crime.
But is the cost of imprisoning offenders playing a part in sentencing?

Dear Belly,

As I see it our three big failures in controlling crime are the non-recognition of the connection between poverty and crime, the attempt to legislate morality and the non-recognition of the societal consequences of our acts.

One reason Australia’s crime rate is lower than that of the US is that there is less of a gap between rich and poor. Actions to reduce that gap further and to promote more equality are actions against crime. Possibly better public schools would help.

The sensible actions you recommend against drugs cannot be taken because too many people regard taking drugs as immoral and therefore possession of drugs is treated as a crime. It shouldn't be.

Casinos are regarded as an easy way of getting revenue without raising taxes. I don’t think the social and economic consequences of the casinos are adequately considered when another one is allowed.

Earl L. Grinols & David B. Mustard, 2006. "Casinos, Crime, and Community Costs,"The Review of Economics and Statistics, MIT Press, vol. 88(1), pages 28-45, April. is just one of the many studies of the relationship between crime and casinos. Australia might benefit financially by shutting down all the casinos. The cost of dealing with the problems caused by casinos might be greater than the revenue from the casinos.

The new government in Queensland will probably approve Clive Palmer’s casino.

Davidf;
The problem of the gun crime is not poverty but riches.
Most of them seem to be about proceeds of crime, ripping drug shipments off each other or money owed.
Also the area involved is at the heart of the car rebirthing racket.
Incidentally it is almost entirely Lebanese looking people who are
involved. How much the Christian Lebanese are involved is hard to tell
but the family women are usually dressed as Moslems. Sometimes the
younger women are dressed normally.

Remember Lakemba police station was shot up by Moslem Lebanese when
the pressure on car rebirthing got too heavy.
I heard a funny story from police on how they used to pick them up
when they were out stealing cars to order. Wish I could tell you.

Latest news, 16 year old from that area arrested armed with gun.
The Airport murderer gets 28 years.
Probably sent to the Gouldburn Max with his rapist countrymen.

I had a job done here by a Lebanese tradesman and the first thing he
said to me was that he was a Christian and that they had nothing
to do with the Lebanese criminals. He was clearly very embarrassed
by it all. Fancy everytime he does a job for a skippy he has to do
a routine to distance himself from his countrymen.
He did a marvelous job of a very difficult job and by using a
different technique did it a lot cheaper than two other quotes.

No one need get on their high horse because I called it as it is.
It is a problem of the wrong sort of immigrants.

How can we blame Tony Abbott for this one?

Bazz,
You said,"No one need get on their high horse because I called it as it is.
It is a problem of the wrong sort of immigrants".

You are dead right. We have allowed immigration of those groups that cannot/will not integrate into our society. Basicly because of the flawed ideology of multiculturalism and a non-discrimatory immigration policy supported by both major parties.

PM Fraser ignored advice that the Lebanese muslims would not integrate and this is the result, even after 3 benerations. They are contemptous of our laws and police.

There are other groups as well that will not integrate. Those that hate others and those that practice FGM, forced marriage, polygomy and other alien cultures. How long before we have a validated 'honour killing'?

We should have been, and now still should have, immigration that excludes those groups that, from our experience, have shown they cannot be part of our society. I care not what nationality or religion they are, if they have shown they will not abide by our standards they should not be here.

Obviously these crims ignore gun laws, so gun control does not work. I do not know what else the police can do about the present situation. We have brought this on ourselves through multiculturalism.

Runner only you found a link, and it says much about you.
Let me be clear, I think good ideas get side lined because PC and the softly softly mob get in the way.
And that poverty has nothing to do with this gun crime.
Unfortunately a culture all of its own, not racial, has.
My thoughts are these on drugs.
Total control, still illegal to drive and every thing else while affected.
Medical Certificate and supervised use.
Price controlled so as to under cut any possible black market.
Taxed, that to be used to cover costs to community.
Mandatory prison term for ANY black market drug use or trafficking.
Unlike the PC brigade, I do not think we brand addicts as victims.
Stop putting them in prison ,for drugs ok, but if they profit from being addicted,say to unable to work , make them accountable
It is true middle eastern crime gangs are driving this today.
In the nature of humans tomorrow it may be others.
Separatism is not helping.
As we get, no matter what side we follow more weary of politicians why not see some true innovation from them?
Drugs sold on the streets kill, the money feeds back,as it always has and will,to the very rich.
It grabs police and politicians along the way corruptly turning them in to filth.
We can only improve by saying enough, standing in the way of reform is the self interests of the corrupt.