Fatherless children and a failure to give a smack on the bum when needed has led us to the point where crimminals know they can get away with just about anything today. Judges re inforce this humanistic doctrine. Thankfully unless repentant they will not avoid the ultimate judgement even though it will be a shock to those getting away with murder all their lives. Society is to blame for adopting idiotic philosophies of moral relativism just so we can feel comfortble in immoral lifestyles which rob kids of a loving dad and mum. Our judges would rather lock someone up for calling Islam evil than a murderer. Then we have the fools like Greens who want to legalise all drugs just so they others can be receptive to their loopiness.

I grew up in the Western suburbs of Sydney and
when I married we moved to Melbourne. From the
things you gentlemen describe - it's not the
Sydney that I knew and loved. I have to admit
I'm a bit suspicious of blaming everything on
a particular minority group. There usually is
more to the story then such simplistic explanations
like - "it's because they're Muslims." Just because
they follow a particular religion - does that make
them unAustralian? And are all Muslims violent?
Or is it only the fundamentalists? Fundamentalists
exist in all religions. That's an ongoing problem in
many societies. Anyway - I'm not interested in
slanging matches against any particular group - or
tainting one group with the same brush and not
allowing for individual differences.

360 degrees exist in a circle.
And just about as many different ideas and thoughts in threads such as this.
I understand that, Sydney's North Shore residents , wealthy never likely to see or even pass by these suburbs will have one.
Hard working westys, western suburbs often living just next door will know but try to stay clear of it.
Some will define it in terms of class or wealth.
But these areas are there to house the not well of, once those folk commuted to inner city and worked.
Bought the rented home or moved out.
Now it is welfare.
But is it wrong to say often by choice?
Why if you had 8, 10 or more kids, or you intended to, would you work?
Change will never come if we constantly confront truths we do not like.
And from afar, from no real knowledge or understanding of the matter.
The links tell it all, post civil war in Lebanon Labor opened a gate.
It is no lie, you can Be bashed, by a third generation Australian, for being Australian, a skip!
See Webb pages from schools proudly burning our flag.
If the truth is confronting ,CONFRONT IT STILL, we help no one hiding our heads.

Lexi, my mate Lexi, we have spoken about out time in that area.
Sound Lounge in parra remember that.
You must understand that area no longer exists, our past is gone, forever.
You say Muslims yet it is Christian Lebanese in Granville, Muslims in Auburn.
Lexi, find me an Aussie there, find me any part of my country with more Lebanese.
Show me the ethnic back grounds of the victims and the perpetrators, in these shootings.
If not as said we have found new ways to racially discredit people, convict them of crimes they never did.
Or shoot them and blame others.
Go back to your old area, just once, be careful, but tell us then we are not telling it like it is.
In our culture, some teach the 2 or 3 year old to drink a little beer and laugh,we teach them a swear word and laugh at the bar b q with mates.
By 6 we are trying to stop them, by ten it is us they swear at, 12 it may be mum who is hit by them.
We plant, some of us seeds that grow.
What seeds grow such hate? as flag burning in third generation kids?

Dear Belly,

Hatred usually grows as a result of being excluded and
made to feel "different." I certainly don't have all
the answers to this difficult issue. However I do know
that there must be a variety of reasons for what's
happening in these areas that you speak of and
blaming people doesn't help. Looking for ways to change
what's happening from the ground up - may be the way to
go.

made to feel "different."
Lexi,
Extremely wrong ! If such people were to behave in a reasonably orderly manner & didn't insist of sticking out like a bloke dressed in black in the snow then no-one would see them as different. It's their own doing ! We are entitled to see them as different if that's how they insist to be seen.