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Queensland election., a referendum on the carbon tax.
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Posted by Banjo, Monday, 26 March 2012 3:51:21 PM
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If you are swayed about federal issues in a state election, there is something naive about it.
Hasbeen was a swinging voter, but now he is a neoliberal, but he did not give the carbon tax as a cause. Qld has more issues than a hat full of holes, and if they did not take the opportunity to address that, then a change of govt; won't do a thing for you. You are far to early to be celebrating, wait 6 months. Remember what conservative means. Good luck. Posted by 579, Monday, 26 March 2012 4:28:02 PM
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I'm still a swinging voter - always have been, hasbeen.
. 579 You are confusing neo-liberalism with neo-conservatism - US liberals with Australian Liberals. Wikki is a good start - see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism#Australia then scroll down to the United States. Abbott is more akin to 'Tea-Party' conservatism - not good for anyone or anything, imho. On the other hand, I could live with a more centrist Liberal, e.g. Turnbull. Unfortunately, Abbott & his ilk stabbed him in the back. Posted by bonmot, Monday, 26 March 2012 5:34:44 PM
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Banjo: "have a good look at those handing out HTVs for the Greens, they are different from ordinary folks."I assume you have never handed out HTV at an election. I've done many an election, federal, state and local. I have nothing but admiration for those doing the hack work for all parties. I always get on well with the Libs, Labor in fact all party workers. these are ordinary Australian who are willing to give up their time to try and make a difference. I like to watch the sheep go in to cast their vote, are you one of those sheep? Still waiting for you to direct me to those Liberal Party policies. I assume all those years ago when you checked on Green policies did you check Liberal and labor policies at the same time? p/s I don't recall that fairyland stuff. Things like lowering the age of consent, legalising all drugs, doing away with Aus defence, etc." Most likely you read that stuff in the Murdoch press and took it to be Green policy? Do you conservatives still support a war with Vietnam, let me answer that one myself, your too busy making war on Iraq and Afghanistan and planing wars on Iran and North Korea.
You oppose a carbon tax and a mining tax but support a goods and services tax. Would that have anything to do with the carbon and mining tax being imposed on big business whilst you were able to impose the GST on the ordinary bloke while business do all they can to rough the tax system. Will Abbott bring back work choices? most likely with a different name. Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 26 March 2012 7:06:44 PM
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Paul,
Only handed out HTVs, and scrutineered, at nearly every State and Fed election since 1960,and a few local govt elections. Nearly forgot the republic referendum as well. Like you, got on pretty well with other booth workers, but noticed the difference in the greens booth workers. Have even traveled interstate to be a booth worker. The policies I mentioned came direct from the Greens official website.They are still there if you interpret the policies correctly, just worded different. They sure have had some weird policies. See Bob Browns speech in Tassie, calling us earthians and promoting a one world government. Hey, I have read of some claiming Bob Katter is mad. He could not even come second to Bob Brown. You Greens are still smoking that Wacky tobaccy. Don't assume others know nothing or have little experience. Posted by Banjo, Monday, 26 March 2012 7:54:43 PM
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Remember what conservative means.
579, It means several things such as cautious, responsible & sensible. Your lot lost all that when the Labor Party became Labor in name only. I only too clearly recall Labor's meaning of transparent & democratic. No consideration for anyone working for a living & shady deals with consultants galore. Fleecing those with the go in them & rewarding the hangers-on. Exactly the opposite to the original Labor doctrine. Posted by individual, Monday, 26 March 2012 7:59:34 PM
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I have always opposed the greens because of their fairyland stuff, lkie they are eating funny mushrooms. have a good look at those handing out HTVs for the Greens, they are different from ordinary folks.
But you are wrong, I am not a Liberal supporter generally or a member of any party. It is just that the present government are so useless and incompedent that I am compelled to do what I can to be rid of them. If I want to be rid of the present mob the only ones to take their place is the Libs. I have a few grievences but we did pretty well before.
You see I agree with Belly, if the Libs had a better leader we would not be in this mess now, Gillard would not have made it last time. Oh, and Turnbull is not the Libs answer to that.
579,
Keep going lad, you doing well. Yeah there are no implications for Gillard from the Qld election, it was entirely state issues and you tell em that at your ALP party meeting. Gillards got it all under control and the idiot electors will forget what a liar and incompedent she is. Take no notice of those saying you are in denial.