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Queensland election., a referendum on the carbon tax.

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SM as a one eyed conservative supporter I am sure your would like to relate the impending Labor disaster in Queensland to Federal Labor. I don't know that much about Queensland and the issues up there, but 12 months ago I did a lot of door knocking and talking and listening in my local electorate here in NSW for The Greens, spoke with and listened to literally hundreds of voters and the message was a very strong anti state labor. The electorate is discerning enough to divorce federal politics from state. having said that Federal Labor will need to pull a real rabbit out of the hat to win next time. As some poly once said "oppositions don't win elections, governments lose them."
Anyway one good thing about Queensland after tomorrow will be Belly will be able to have another long lament about his beloved ALP and how the party is getting it all together again.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 23 March 2012 9:21:03 PM
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I read this wonderful assertion from Tony Abbott in the Courier Mail today. It's almost as rich as Bob Hawke's suggestion that Queenslanders just don't understand how wonderful Anna Bligh is.

Neither of these non-Queenslanders seems to understand that, despite apparently being a bit slow and backward, we in Queensland have our own unique issues to deal with, and are quite aware of the terrible state of our politics. Hawke took it a step further and credited Ms Bligh with 'transforming' Queensland and, in particular, Brisbane. Is he not aware that her opponent is the former Lord Mayor of Brisbane, who must surely take more credit (or blame) for that transformation than Bligh? Is he also unaware that Queensland is a largely decentralised state? The gentrification and cosmopolitanisation (of that is even a word) of Brisbane means nothing to those of us who have to travel down a thousand miles of potholed, flooded highway to see it. To Mr Hawke I say that we are well aware of our premier's achievements, but we are also well aware of her failings. Sadly, the latter greatly outweighs the former.

Similarly, Mr Abbott fails to realise that the problems in Queensland extend far beyond a carbon tax imposed at the federal level. We may be a little slow up here, but we are generally well aware that nothing we can do at the state level will have any impact on that tax. I, for one, am looking forward to booting out our state Labor government for their own ineptitude. The feds can wait their turn.
Posted by Otokonoko, Friday, 23 March 2012 11:05:15 PM
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3 years ago, Queensland Labor was also long in the tooth, but with a popular federal labor government, the state Labor government just managed to scrape in.

Today, While I have no doubt that the longevity of the Bligh government and its own errors would have ensured that the LNP won, it is not possible to ascribe the sheer magnitude of the swing to merely state issues.

Federal Labor's lies and bungling have turned a loss into a rout.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 24 March 2012 3:53:25 AM
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Rechtub you join Shadow Minister in what I see as an insult, in your case from a failure, to understand.
Today it is not about Canberra, not about carbon tax.
This thread, and one of spin docs, are aimed at gaining yet a few more votes, in the coming landslide.
Yes Labor is going to suffer, it won one too many elections.
And its current leader betrayed the faithful with her privatizations.
The other reason, surely reasonable folk can see, is to take some of the credit for federal Conservatives.
And take a huge mud pie to throw at Gillard.
Phoney and all, it is cute.
Not long ago Labor had all the states and Territory's, plus Federal government.
This will be the way it is again,today feeds change in the ALP.
Remember this, Federal politics has blinded many, but Abbott's three ring circus has used fear half truths and pea and thimble tricks to sell a bag full of nothing.
I highlight that Labor tragics as we are called at least understand, think, know, a fake when we see it.
Real tragedy here Rechtub is you have far too much confidence in your own views and far too little respect for others rights to differ.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 24 March 2012 4:44:20 AM
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I don't see what federal labor has to do with QLD.
QLD is miles behind the game, and people are searching. Not long ago all states were labor, so it's reasonable to see a change.
It's a matter of what can be done there that was not already being done, people may be just as disappointed in six months time as now.
If there is any reference to a tax that has not come into effect as yet, it will be because of tony and clives, scare campaign.
There are more important issues than treating an election as a referendum. That is saying the people are stupid.
Posted by 579, Saturday, 24 March 2012 6:35:03 AM
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Ar Belly, humble pie can be hard to swallow old mate.

I invite you to cast your mind back four odd years, when Labor in QLD lost the election, but didn't loose badly enough.

The par of that election I will always remember, was your reaction, as you could not hide your delight when labor won, as you reacted like a fat kid in a Lolly shop.

The sad part was that deep down, even you knew it was a terrible result, one that cost us our railway in the end, despite the assurance from the premier that that would never happen.

Lies seems to run in the family with labor leaders of late, doesn't it.

Well, lies catch up to you in the end, and JG will literally crap her pants when she sees the result in QLD.

I just hope she can't do to much damage in the next 18 months, or so, but then again, I, and many others said the same thing about QLD labor four odd years ago.

As for the LNP, I said all along that all that was needed was a decent leader and the voters would do the rest.

I also offered my 'I'll informed' opinion, in that we here in QLD finally had an option, the day that CN announced he was running for premier.

As usual, I was shot down, so this will make this victory that much better for little ol 'I'll informed' me.

Brace yourself Julia!
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 24 March 2012 6:42:26 AM
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