Merely a Male Lady's so bound to be wrong.
I love a grin in fact belly likes a belly laugh.
But should constantly remind myself Pelicans sacred cow, no female is to be charged with anything.
Bit mischievous I am tempted to carry on.
But no, I understand, equality is only for men, women, well SOME demand a bit more.
Sorry about the apron, promise it should have said she is the boss not here is the boss.
I Belly beg forgiveness for daring to suggest SOME women are controlling.
But thank Pelican, for supporting my thoughts.

Belly
'But should constantly remind myself Pelicans sacred cow, no female is to be charged with anything. Bit mischievous I am tempted to carry on.'

You are being unfair Belly. Where did I argue no female is to be charged or that females are sacred cows who are never wrong. You obviously never read my posts. You are being very mischevious Belly and I think you know it in your heart of hearts.

If you think it is okay for men to be controlling but not women that is fine. Can't teach an old dog new tricks and let's face it we are all a result of our conditioning, but try something even more mischevious - dare to question some of those conditionings.

Good Morning Pelican
I have a test.
Truly I have put you on a pedestal, for your posting style and history.
You have given me some credit in this thread.
Poirot has spoken both about liking talking to men here, and the rare numbers,compared to men of women here.
I like talking to them.
On anything close to this subject, you and I differ.
In your view why is that so.
Are you over defensive,am I too aggressive?
Did I show some intent to denigrate all women, most, many?
If the subject was say crime statistics, could we separate female from male to find out who commits the majority?
Would out comes of that investigation inflame the discussion?
Pack rape, an almost exclusively male crime.
Do we in trying to find out why it takes place take gender out of the investigation.
With respect, I truly think, no subject even pedophilia should be ignored.
And that beer add,the he speaks women one.
It quite brilliantly catches Aussie humor and just a little truth.
I recently, watched a woman welcome her husband home after a long days work.
By screaming at him, in front of others,and, no joke listing the work he had to do, including washing ironing cooking.
Our joke Poirot and mine has come to life.
Not for me,I have seen it before, too many times both sex's.
I feel no guilt in bringing this subject up.

Belly
You and I agree on many things especially on politics, maybe differing on occasion.

You are free to bring up any topic you like but I only asked why only bring up women in the context of 'being controlling'. It is not gender determined. There are many controlling men out there and I conclude that since you did not mention it as a problem, that you are okay with it. That is all. I don't think I am being overly-defensive but if I think a viewpoint is gender biased, even if the word 'some women' is used.

I disagree it is a 'problem' as you state earlier. No more a problem than controlling men. You asked 'what is the solution'? I don't think it is a problem that society needs to fix. If a husband or wife is controlling it really is a matter for them to resolve. It is not a great social problem. From my point of view, this lies in the area of personal affairs and not anything governments should involve themselves in.

Pelican yes all true we agree often.
But at the times we do not so be it.
Life is full of contradictions.
We find in conversations we all, can for peace sake,answer with other than our true thoughts.
I value honesty, above all honesty and questions that look for honest answers.
History, every bit of it, shows some women are controlling.
And as I said earlier, men too, more.
I started the thread, putting Satire and humor as second subject,to highlight two thoughts.
The humor well anchored in Aussie folk law, about the trouble and strife, wife, she who must be obeyed, and that hugely funny often true woman whisperer in cowboy gear.
Little Blond wife huge bloke under her thumb.
I even spoke of how the changes in my lifetime had to come,66 and a bit years ago the little women did as told.
Had little say, but still some, both sex's, blew up.
I think the pill gave freedom to women, much needed.
But SOME have started to become the very thing that shouted at me, men needed to change.
SOME men SOME women own and control their partners.
Pelican if you watched a young bloke subjected to pure spite in front of his Friends and his wifes Friends every day, yet knew she loved him would you be tempted to ask what reason exists for it?

'Pelican if you watched a young bloke subjected to pure spite in front of his Friends and his wifes Friends every day, yet knew she loved him would you be tempted to ask what reason exists for it?'

Only in the context of their relationship perhaps but I would keep it to myself. It really is their business. I would also ask why he stays with his wife. People choose their lives more than they are willing to concede or at least display laziness in choosing change over the status quo.

The reasons for it are far out of my area of expertise in psychology and I see it as an issue for individuals rather than for society.

I did not intend to offend you by asking the question, and certainly don't think less of you. Your work in assisting people in the union movement and your obvious passion for a fair go suggests already that you care about people.

It is a knee jerk reaction from me when I see this sort of stuff, that is all. Maybe I should chill. :)