Speaking of controlling women. Gillard you are the first labour leader in 20 yrs i havent supported. I did untill you dumped this "the plan" domestic violence fiasco. You have rendered men to little more than disposable cash dispensers who can be thrown in prison at the whim of their most likely abusive partners. This thing does nothing to address the epidemic of female violence on male partners whilst putting men under even more ridiculous regulations. Your women will be very safe only a very stupid man would go near them. I look fwd to voting you out at the next election. I also look fwd to fleeing my once beloved country if this mad proposal is approved.

When will you learn? You made marriage unworkable for men, they retreated. you made live in relationships for men unworkable for men. Why the heck should she get the half the house for sitting on the couch watching oprah for 10 weeks? are you serious?!?! Still its not enough we need more hateful feminist ideology. Well this thing will make sure that no man is ever alone with a woman. Any man that is alone with a woman under your ridiculous plan is putting himself at risk of going to prison on heresey. Ladies when men drive past you stuck on the side of the road dont blame the men. Blame Gillard!
Where do the children of Australia come from then Ms Gillard? You don't think men will retreat? They have every other time. Now you've put our backs to the wall. Theres nowhere left to run.

What would the men who fought and died for this country have done if they knew you were going to do this Ms Gillard? Do you think they'd bother defending your misandric hell? I severely doubt it knowing what you would reduce the men in this country too. Thanks again for stealing my civil rights and hope your proud knowing Ill vote liberal for the first time in 20 years.

Oh and why did the government stop recording the gender on domestic violence Ms Gillard? When they were last recorded in 1997 they showed 41% of domestic violence against children was perpetrated by single mothers and 6% by single fathers. Rather than working on protecting children better you stop recording gender as of 1997 and its assumed along the feminist cult view that all violence against children must be perpetrated by men. You are putting the children of Australia at risk Ms. Gillard. They dont even deserve to have their name on this misandric rubbish.

Why are pets covered by the plan and not men Ms Gillard? Where are the shelters for the male victims Ms Gillard? 20 yrs ago I ran way from an abusive mother to have your FACS (DCW in those days) drag me back to my abusive mother as 15 yo child.

Wake up Ms Gillard there are two genders in this country and you need both.

Hi Nothankyou,

Of course, you are right that the gender of DV offenders should be recorded.

But in relation to your interesting stat: " .... in 1997 .... 41% of domestic violence against children was perpetrated by single mothers and 6% by single fathers" -

Taking into account who is responsible for the other 53 %, what proportion of children in single-parent families is in the care of their mothers, what proportion is in the care of their fathers, and what proportion is in the care of others, like grandmothers, step-parents and foster-carers ?

80 %, 10 % and 20 % ?

60 %, 10 % and 30 % ?

40 %, 10 % and 50 % ?

Your figures are a bit meaningless unless you are comparing apples with apples :)

Cheers,

Joe

Belly this subject is beneath you. It is the same 'all men are bastards' mentality in reverse.

Joe I can't find references at the moment but I've posted bit's of older reports covering family types and substantiated abuse previously. A number of groups used to publish the family type and substantiated child abuse stats in an accessable manner.

The old Child Abuse Trust (now ACTS I think) and the National Child Protection Clearinghouse were two that I've referenced previously.

I knew that the Child Abuse Trust dropped the family type stats a few years ago, not sure on the Child Protection Clearinghouse but they do seem to have shifted to editorialised brochures as the focus in recent years.

One of the older reports did give some coverage of the proportion of kid's in the family type compared to the substantiated abuse rates. The abuse did not necessarily occur in the home (but my impression is that most did). Single parent male lead households came out slightly less dangerous than single parent female lead ones, not really surprising considering the barriers against dads having custody.

Both were far worse than two parent homes. My impression is that issues such as the lack of backup and a second opinion, poverty, time in care and substance abuse were the real points of concern rather than gender of the parent.

R0bert

Not sure why a post is gone.
But Pelican?
Now hear this , is it not ok to talk about some subjects?
You seem against any fault finding with any woman.
If you look you will see humor here more than insults.
And you will see truth far more often than lies.
I could, with no problems, start a thread about controlling husbands, may , you would let it go unchallenged.
And about imported wifes from country's who are little less than slaves.
But here I highlight CONTROLLING WOMEN, my pen is no sword, I could have spoken of men haters, who wed then make life hell, who form closer than natural relation ships with other women, sexual, but remain wed.
I contend this, no charge ,no insult, against any sex is unfounded in SOME.
Murder/Rape/tell me the crime I will find a woman and man who did it.
Why Pelican do you so freely challenge the right to openly talk about this subject.
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Do you say no woman controls her man harshly
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Are SOME women too demanding
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has equality in relationship a future.
To save me being flogged with a broom, I ask the same questions about men.
PS no woman ever will control me, I will never try to control one,respect in relationship is mutual.