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2012 a year that challenges the ALP

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One account of what I assume Belly is talking about is at http://netk.net.au/Whitton/Hillbilly25.asp

There were a variety of other allegations suggesting that cash may have been paid by businesses wanting to get government contracts.

Much stronger claims floated around regarding one senior minister and the payments of bribes to get things done. Whilst I've got some strong views on that I doubt that they could be substantiated in court by surviving family members so I'll leave it at that.

In regard to some others in that government at best there were some massive conflicts of interest which should not have occurred, at worst outright corruption. The government also included some who wanted better, how many government initiated inquiries since have had terms of reference that allowed investigation of the same government?

It was a government that for the most part did seem to try and do good for Queensland, that initiated a lot of work that's stood the test of time.

We should learn from the strengths and failings of The Bjelki-Peterson government, not minimise the failings of current governments because of that governments failings.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 6:00:06 PM
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RObert/Banjo this much is true, every party in my view, that ever existed has had its criminals mine is no exception.
Look, will not go too deep but I by holding my views, not bending, am under fire and my lifetime of service/love of both Labor and Union is under fire.
Because simple as it is, no window dressing, I think both exist ONLY to serve.
And yes, SOLIDARITY is a lie, a word used like a blanket to cover true filth.
Conservatives may not use that word but act no differently.
Much of the anti Labor stuff, as it was in the 70,s is unfounded.
Much is born, bred and fostered in the actions of idiots.
I a trade unionist, am expected to hide under my bed,at the very thought, of questioning the betrayer of rank and file union members in the HSU.
I will not!
Such as he/them are rank and vile!
Unions need only this to prosper,people who with all their heart serve because of the reason not the power such service gives.
My party too.
Some real true lost loonies inhabit both sides,because factions are demanding seats not quality Representatives.
I tender the foolish leader of Labors left faction in the house and conservatives silly house wife and her perfume for Australia thoughts.
Accountability and constant improvement are not currency used enough in Australian Politics.
Ejection seats should be installed in Canberra.
Gillard would look good in one Abbott sitting in her lap.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 4:31:18 AM
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Talking about challenges for the ALP in 2012 7 reference to Joh about a 10 mill loan to his son. Did Young master Petersen have to pay this loan back & did he do so ?
On the other hand a Qld Health bureaucrat recently just took 16 mill without anyone noticing before it was too late. Question here is did Queensland get Joh's 10 mill back & will Queensland get the 16 mill back ? Quite a challenge I'd say.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 7:53:04 PM
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How can I answer you Indy without insulting you?
How much thought did you put in to that or any one post you ever contributed.
You have no difficulty remembering the sins of a government in the years 1972 to 1975.
But needed me to remind you about this well known event.
A loan was given, presumed to be paid back.
And a crime, by both the thief,and those overlooking him, and even a glance, as you gallop past on a bolting horse, at your states papers.
Will tell you he has not yet been convicted, and property is to be sold to recover some.
FEEBLE pointless and school yard like, is how your post looks.
Labors challenge is understanding it will not be true believers who challenge them.
It will be unfounded thoughts like yours, fed by our increasing failure to tell our story.
To tell some our story we would need to hire the Muffets, as educators.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 12 January 2012 4:25:39 AM
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Belly it's my understanding that the loan came from third parties, not Australian taxpayers. What's I've read on it suggests that it wasn't one of those no interest, never to be repaid loans, rather a loan with better conditions than most of us might get. Not sure if there was anything about that which was illegal, but a conflict of interest.

Interesting to see your mate Bob Brown (joking) complaining about Julia breaking promises (not meeting him regularly) in the media this morning. Seems to me that he recently voted for a piece of legislation which was a clear break of promise to the voters by Julia with a strong chance that he put pressure on her to break that promise. A bit rich of him to be crying foul over a broken promise to him when a promise to the voters seemed to be so easily discarded.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Thursday, 12 January 2012 5:29:55 AM
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Yes aware it was a private loan, at that time still a lefty I researched the whole thing.
As I age some memory's fade, until now did not remember it was not to be repaid.
I do however know it was badly needed at that time.
Legal costs and other things had a big impact on the whole family.
I find it insulting, that in such matters, on both sides, we will be long in our graves before the whole story emerges.
For that reason will till death, say SOLIDARITY is a swear word used to blind us to truth.
Glad you are joking about the gentle man, your point is hurtful.
But yes he is as lost as it is possible to be.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 12 January 2012 12:49:42 PM
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