Belly,
I must tell you. I saw a news item tonight that causes me to praises the government.

The Atorney General said, about those idiots that illegally boarded the Japanese ship off WA, There are consequences when people take the laws into their own hands. They only have themselves to blame. That may not be exactly what she said but near enough. Isn't that great, and commendable.

She or K Rudd should not waste much time on any diplomatic efforts in this case.

Hope the Japs take them back to Japan when their time is due to go back and the idiots are tried with hyjacking or piracy. Would be ironic if they are fed only rice and whale meat. Pity we may give them legal aid and they probably will still receive social welfare while away overseas. I'm a bit sour about that.

The longer the fools are out of Australia the better off we all are.

Of course, Labors coalition partners hailed them as heros.

I have put a thread for consideration up on that subject Banjo, and agree.
So, Gillard Labor are in control, its them making choices about the future of food factory's.
If you are unable to find some thing off substance to target Labor?
Time you kicked against the wall and swam out of the shallow end to gain insight in to events.
Based on what you provide you information? about the brown paper bag man, the flying peanut, is not linked to understanding.
How many who still support him, know about that ten million dollar loan, interest free? to his son?
Had Labor been involved we would know much more.
However you do Labor a service.
Labor must confront this truth, it faces folk like your self who vote on every uninformed half truth no matter what direction truth takes.

Belly,
Dissappointed this morning. Those fools are to be released, but don;t know when? Not our governments fault, this time its the Japs who dropped the ball. Should make an example of them.

You speak in riddles, similar to OUG. If you have knowledge about someone making a $10 million loan to his son why not disclose it? I certainly do not mind. It was not long ago that all states and the Feds were under Labor governments, so they were in position to release it. Then we have media such as the Age and smh and ABC who you would approve of. Then you could also approach crikey or new Matilda or even Green Left Weekly. All of the above dearly love to print anything that puts Labor on the high moral ground. There are plenty of Labor loving commentators, such as Day and Calton who would do the job. Maybe they do not want to expose too many skeletons from the cupboard. Both major parties have things they prefer kept quiet.

Are you suggesting that Labor is above muck raking? History would not support that concept.

Belly,
Another major challenge for the ALP this year is the leadership. Do they dump Gillard and replace her with, whom? They dumped Rudd who was polling better at the time than Gillard is now, but they hoped Gillard would pick up the 'womens vote' which did not quite work out. Rudd probably is the only one who has enough ego to think he can save a sinking ship.

I recall, in NSW, they made Kristine Kennelly captain of a sinking ship in the hope she would pick up some 'womens votes'. I have always felt sorry for her, it was not a fair go.

No Banjo I speak in no riddles.
That ten million dollar interest free loan is no secrete.
A Japanese firm, involved in doing business with Joe's QLD and the white shoe brigade lent it.
To Joe's son at a time he needed it.

I ASK this, as my charge is well known to be the truth,and could have been one of dozens like it.
As no side of politics is better or worse in such actions? are you content to only hight LABORS wrongs.
Is dishonesty ok for conservatives.
If Gillard got that loan would it be ok?
Try Indy not to answer it is way over your head/understanding
Fact is honesty is a duty.

Sorry Belly, I thought you were refering to something far more recent.

Yeah I remember some references to the 'white shoe brigade'but nothing came of it and we have had many years of labor government in Qld, so I guess if there is any political gain there it would have been done by now.

Talking of Qld, On another forum there is talk of the Qld floods just 12 months ago. Interesting info coming out about the Qld Beattie government and the Sooley city council, in Brisbane, and their involvement with allowing housing subdivision on the flood plains. Info that never came out in the so called 'inquiry'. Will keep an eye on that one. Looks as though it could be labeled another Labor stuff up, if not worse. Many up there are pretty angry today.

No I am not going to comment on an Lib shortcomings at this stage as I want to be rid of the worst government we have ever had. Any mob, except the Greens, could not be worse than the present lot.