O2 quote..""A loving God..wouldn't create..hell""

yes..you got that..right!

hell is purely..what..*we created
god..had nothing to do..with..it

see hell..*isnt real

just as hells devisions/fear/hate/creed greed..isnt real
god only makes..THE good/perfect/living..the reality...

[which we can reject...then
create our own reality]..ie..that godfree place...'hell'

that cetainly..has nothing to do with god
in the main..those who go into hell..[to help those there..
see through..their delusions]..ie to wake them up..

that the delusion..they dream..
is not..real..[hell..in no way..is real;]

but..to those blinded
by their..own ignorance..it seems real

i should quote..from the only text
i can acces..at this time to prove it..for you

but lets continue..with your comment

""....However...other dimensions..where souls contemplate their actions..and learning from their misdeeds..over time is possible."'

again we hit
the faulse belief..
that allows hell..to be 'real-ised'

see..in their dreams[nightmare]..[ie in hell]
they dont contemplate nuthing..they are activly doing
their vile..[unto that they percieve as others]..but in reality only upon themself..!..[opthers is the other delusion]

[those loving..murder only 'murder'..each other...
...rapists raping..only other rapists]
vivisectionists/only dicecting..other vivosectionists

heck let go
the quote

i will re-arrange chapter 26
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/wsl/wsl28.htm

""The multitudes..of such lives have been,
and shall yet be,..as the stars of the sky..
and the sands of the sea in number,..*and as*..*each builds..
*for himself..his own habitation in the higher..*or in the lower spheres,..

so are the vast spheres
peopled and their many dwelling places..and cities formed.

"Far beyond the power..of any mortal
to carry even his thoughts*,..
lie the myriad dwelling places..of the spheres,..

..each spot..or locality
bearing upon it the individual stamp
of the spirit..*whose life..*has created it,..!

and as there are..no two faces,..no two minds,
exactly similar..in all the countless beings..that have peopled the earth-..

-so too..there are no two places..
in the spirit world exactly alike...

Each place--yea,..*even each sphere-
-is..*the separate creation..
of the particular/class of minds...*that have created it,..!

and those whose minds..are in affinity
being drawn to each other..in the spirit world

every place will bear..more
or less..*the peculiar stamp..of its inhabitants.""

ie not god

""They forget..that Rome..is not Genoa,
Milan,..or..Venice,..yet..these are all..in Italy.

Lyons..is not Paris,..yet both..are in France-

[continue quote]

and both will bear certain characteristic features, certain national traits of resemblance. Or to extend the simile still further, New York and Constantinople are both cities upon the planet Earth,

yet there is between them and their population so great a difference, so wide a gulf, that it requires that we should look no longer for national characteristics but only for the broad fact that both are inhabited by the human race, differing, however widely, in manners and appearance.

"And now I would have you each observe that in all your wanderings--in all the sad sights you have seen--all the unhappy beings you have known groveling in this sink of their own iniquities, there were yet the germs of human souls inextinguishable and undestroyable,

and you have each learned, I trust, that long as may be the probation of the soul--greatly as it may retard the hour of its release by the perversion of its powers-

-yet to all is given the inalienable birthright of hope, and to each will come at last the hour of awakening, and those who have sunk to the lowest depths will arise even as a pendulum swung to its farthest limit will arise and swing back again as high as it has sunk low.

Thus in giving a description of this or any other sphere you will naturally be able to tell only what you have seen, and to describe those places to which you were attracted,

while another spirit who has beheld a different portion of the same sphere may describe it so very differently that men on earth, who limit all things too much,and measure them by their own standards of probability,

will say that since you differ
in describing the same sphere you must both be wrong""

lol

these wholy sacred words..cant be read.only once

they..*must be visualised

""Before..we again..passed through..*the fiery ring""

so look arround you
see a fire ring?

where..could this..'ring/of fire"..posasable..'be'?

fire..""that encompassed.this region,"'

""the leader..of our band conducted us
to the top..of a high pinnacle of rock

from which we beheld..the cities and plains
and mountains of that Land..of Darkness,..through which..each of us had passed..in our pilgrimage...[of hope]

And standing..on that mountain peak..we could survey the mighty panorama of Hell..stretched out at our feet.

He then addressed us..in grave,..solemn tones:

"This scene upon which we look..is but a small,
a very small, fractional portion..of the great sphere
which men have been wont to speak of..as 'Hell.'

There are dark spheres..above this
which may seem..to many to deserve the name
until they have seen..this place and learned in it..how low a soul can sink..and how much more terrible..in this sphere..can be both the crimes and the sufferings.

The great belt..of *dark matter""

desribed here..way back in 1896
that which science..has only now 'found'

yet described fully
later..lol

a great belt..of darkmatter..""of which is composed this,
the lowest..of the earth..[like]..spheres,""

see that earth*..was only to misslead
those who fully believe..lol..hell lies 'below us'..lol

it..""extends for many million miles around us,""
ie..cant be under the ear-th

""and has received within its borders
all those multitudes of sinful souls
whose material lives have been passed on earth,

''and whose existences date back to the remote far-off ages in which the planet Earth first began to bear its harvest of conscious immortals, destined to sin and suffer and work out each their own salvation till they should be purified from all earthly stain--all taint of their lower nature.

''The multitudes of such lives have been, and shall yet be, as the stars of the sky and the sands of the sea in number,and as each builds for himself his own habitation in the higher or in the lower spheres,..so are the vast spheres peopled and their many dwelling places and cities formed.""

heck read the book[chapter]..
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/wsl/wsl28.htm
suspend disbelief..for just a moment

[disbelief..only feeds the fear demons]

Good morning OUG Opinionated2, my belief is much like yours O2.
Do not fear for me how ever OUG i traveled your path many paths and I think after this life another may start, and briefly I may know why, even see the face of what you name God.
We are not alone a third of humans seek the same answers we do here.
Very easy to write us of but who truly knows?
Been reading about past life and predictions.
Stunning how those folk knew about the Spanish coming but a million yes that number of proven predictions exist.
Unfortunately within ten billion frauds.

belly mate...your right about frauds..scamers

most prophecy is fraud..!
[i could explain why..but heck
the deception speaks for itself]

much better are these books
just simple stories..that read like a novel

the complete experience
they actually experienced..after their death

download the pdf..put it on kindle..[or other e'reader]
sit down relax and just read them

here is a good read
about those who died/didnt die on the titanic
http://new-birth.net/booklet/BlueIsland.pdf

here is gone west
the very best book on the after life
read about the officer..who went from the deepest hell
back into the light

http://new-birth.net/booklet/Gone_West.pdf
here is his sequel
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Subaltern_Spirit_Land.pdf

this is great
http://new-birth.net/booklet/LifeHereafter_gc.pdf

so is this
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Anthony%20Borgia-Heaven_And_Earth.pdf

so is this
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Life_in_the_World_Unseen.pdf

http://www.jhardaker.plus.com/pdf/The%20Gate%20of%20Heaven.pdf

also worth finding is.."the post mortum journal'
[sir lawrence of arabias post death experiences]

it was written by automatic writing by jane sherwood
and is interesting in that he used a woman to record it

right from the first page
she writes..''its not ever easy for him..i retain an impish thought image..he once passed to me..of himself running franticly arround me..and even turning sumersaults..in his imatience at my slowness''

his was the last transmission
from the after life i have read

anf if anything enjoy the sudden begining of his story
[after researching sir lawrences life..its easy to understand why]

anyhow he began his tale
at his death..[on a motercycle]

literally like this

''1.an end and a beginning

a shattering blow
darkness rent with interlocking agony
and finally a mercifull cessation of pain..nothingness

out of the void..came first
a mere point of self awarness;
lost and found again..spreading eventually into an indedfinite impression of being;..a sensation of neither darkness nor light.an uneasy greyness filled with growing missapprehention

soon i should need to drag myself out of..this numbing stupor
to find out where i was...and what was happening..in this waste greyness.but having flickering consciousness went out again and slept.

there came a time i could no longer drowse away my fears

the sense of identity grew stronger
and with it came the tumult of emotions

continues