Good to see we are still talking sorry I had not looked in for a while.
I know, we all do, some will think us quite mad.
Do not care.
Fact is some have, in my view, no imagination, no need to understand, and are poorer for it.
This I will say, those who live closer to life, in the country or not in the fast lane,seem closer to these things.
My family, is some time stunned , by dreams that have come true.
That I told them about, weeks before.
Now some will grab that, shape it and throw it back next time they disagree.
But it will not change the truth.
It happens, often, frightens even me.
How did I have a nightmare! stark, fear filled one, about a snake biting me!
Awakening to be so happy it was a dream.
Open my door, see the only other occupant of my home open his white faced.
We swapped these words
* me had the most awful nightmare about a sna*
*He do not tell me! I do not want to know! I dream I had a giant snake on my shoulder and it bit you, as you got it off me!*
So?
Not even I can know why, but this is true, that old very old house a slab hut, was the place mum lived before dieing , my brother was at a low in his life.
It was all good for him and me after that night.
We, both, took new directions and I think avoided something bad.
20 years on? we are best mates both ok but still not sure about that night and morning.

Hi OUG and Belly,

The thing I forgot to mention in my previous post regarding the 3 gentleman concerned is that we all worked together, and all had that discussion at the same time.

I am not one to consult the "spirits" as it were. I think life is a tapestry of experiences that present themselves along the way.

I ask them to help me to become a better person and am thrilled when I am given the information in the previous posts. I also thank them openly in my thoughts for the part they all played in my life.

Even the bad experiences are part of my life's journey but I always learn from them and treasure the experience where possible.

I've learnt to always go back and re-assess.

There is nothing to fear in the next stage of our journeys...in fact I always am amazed at how scared many who are religious are when their time comes. The non-religious, but spiritual, are relaxed and often looking forward to the journey when their time comes, and the religious are usually fearful.

I think all that hell fire and damnation rubbish is the wrong route to a spiritual journey and so they approach things in fear rather than love.

Not sure if I'm right but it seems to look that way.

Opinionated2,
How many people of faith bedsides have you attended at their death; compared to non believers? I have found the opposite a fact.

Philo,

I haven't had that much experience but those that were religious seemed quite fearful.

I have only seen one death bed conversion but that was an Uncle with a Catholic Priest by his side, as the wife was a Catholic. It didn't calm him at all, but it made his wife feel better.

I suppose no-one wants to die, but in my limited experience the spiritual people, (not religious), have seemed to deal with their passing better.

If you belong to a Church and have attended more, I will bow to your knowledge of how religious people handle it.

most dead people
dont realise they are dead
in fact many know dead isnt meaning death

we are eternal spirits..having 'a life'
when we chose to fill that life with mortal thinking
we get afreard of that death monster..but 'death'..comes as a mercyfull blessing..when your ever nerve jangles with mortal pains

sadly many that have physicly died
think their spirit must be dead too
[this is particularilly the case with suicides and many 'drug deaths'

heck there are many of the fathers 'houses' dedicated to those thinking they are dead...[when its only their faith..FAKINg the dead symptom..;indeed he was only sleeping../pretending to be dead]

these dead to eternity..are tried to be woken
by gentle means..[freewill is supreem..if you want to play dead..thats your right]

most annoying..is those tricked by mortal thinking
that they will be judged..[ie waiting for some judgment day..or some reserction 'day'..when in heaven there is no night..thus only the one 'day']

when i hell there is only night
day never comes

mabny perfectly good people
CHOSE to be 'dead',..thus chose to reside in the ever night

forgetting that ignorance
and faulse beliefs are a right

ok you want to play dead..fine
just dont do it here

you want to sleep
go to the place of the sleepers
[and that place is in that dark place
where no light dares disturb your veiled eyes]

god gives us what we ask
if you chose to sleep..for a day
that can never come
well so be it..

[your wish..choice is respected]

It's amazing how opening up and just talking to people about spiritual experiences brings out some amazing stories from others.

I have always been very open about my experiences, although, I know some people when I tell them, may think I am nuts.

I was talking to a few people the other day and we started talking about strange experiences we have had.

So to get people really open I told about my last two dreams, that I mentioned above in the thread..

Suddenly, the guy next to me, a quiet sort of guy, said... "That's the same experience I had".

He was given up for adoption within a family. His biological father was an alcoholic or something like that and so he really only met him a few times, when he was around 12.

He was overseas and one night he had a dream about his biological father.

He'd never done that before. He very rarely even thought of him, as he was never really a part of his life.

The next day, his phone rang, and he was informed that his biological father had passed away the day of the dream.

He has never told anyone this, because he thought people would think he was nutty. The way he opened up, just because he now knew that another person had experienced the same thing, was fabulous.

For 15 odd years he had sat on this event, because of what others might think and how others might judge him.

Like me, he had never gone to a psychic to find out more, he just accepted that there are things we just don't understand, like myself, and kept on with his life.

Onward and upward people...