you raise good points O2
my server is so slow uploading..i cant critique the youtube clips

so i will restrict myself to the words your used

quote..""If God is omniscient""

there is no if's about that
science as clever as it is...
can only use a living cell..to make..'life'

just as it has learned to 'start hearts'
with an electric shock...it still can build a 'heart'

nor can it build 'life'...[the most recent blurb...under that heading ended up being that they extracted dna from a live bacteria..and inserted their code into it]..it then dived..and they claim life lol

but it wasnt
life comes only from life

so the theory that life came by chance
is a theory..just like the theory that many little species changes..'evolve into new genus'

use some sense here
where is this half blood cold blood wish with hips and shoulderblades and legs...[the so called coldbnlood amphibians got no hip..got nbo shoulder blad..got no fur..arnt half warm/half cold blood[its a theory]

""GOD knew..we would eat of the tree of the knowledge""

yes he did...then the question must arise
how did god know...[there are two parts to this]

see that..we dont have one big bang
but an eternity..of big bangs

a big expantion...[and its assiative
''change of 'state']..followed by the big inversion..

and its final 'change of state...
;think like..of a container of water
that at the last moment..expands and becomes ice

that goes bang
and the NEXT expantion 'begins'

god of course is beyond any affect..of that big bang

he was outside of them all
in fact was from the time of the big inversion
that preceeded..the big collapse...

[where 'we got/get so clever''[again]
we PROOVE god cant really egsist/insist

then..he simply said
says..im leaving

or simply lets us figure it all out
by the good god doing nothing anymore

KNOWing we either stand
or fall

were just too clever
your gown up..NOW*?

ok prove it

continued

heck we dont know
how can we imagine..what it feels like to be rejected
by billions of kids?

sure you love them all
but they just want more...[and then say your not real]

BUT

in the timelessness..we[and he..all forget]
but DEjaVU...we sometimes remember..[bits]..that happend..last time

hence prophecy..
but not egsactly..the same thing happens each time

its said only the big things
beginning and endings usually are the only sure thing
as gods mind slowly recalls..

till in this time and state
he knows its him doing all that 'life' stuff..
all the logic/law..light/life and love stuff...[the all]
all..the means and all the way]

the material..and the spirit
the god of good..as much as the god of evil

yes god knew adam/eve...wouldst eat of the tree
""of good and evil,..otherwise GOD wouldn't have placed it there.""

egsactly
because he did the same things last time
he does egsactly the same things time and time again

god is the only true scientist
he will spend eternity doing egsactly the same things over and over and over again

just like we [made in his image]
do our due diligence[science]..
over and over and over again

its true..a you say
""God placed it to enable us to think,
to have choices,..to make choices.

egsactly

""It wasn't Eve's fault!
It can't have been, God knows everything!""

close enough

""And yet all over the world
people use Omniscient..about God
and then in their teaching..and understanding undermine his omniscience..with their stories.""

and the delusions ie santa claws
or the ester rabbit...
or tha athiest foundation et'al

""Either God isn't omniscient
OR something is wrong!"'

omnipresent
[think like emmanuel]

""you shall call him emmanuel""..:..
god with us..
with..[IN]..us all]

*in..the least of life...
as much as with-in..the best of living

within all life
the one sure sign..of god with us

where life is
god is

where god is
good can chose to be
continued

an angel can declare life is good
because angels know good is god

when an angel is with you
[heck or a demon too]

their message sounds like it comes from withIN
the same within of god is with you..[in you]
in all life..in every life..OMMNIPRESENT

""If a God created all things
then I guess Omniscience is a quality one would ascribe to him."'

god is all
in all..outside all
where life/logic/light/life/love is
god is

""Yet,..he didn't know Eve would eat?""

pleasse provide proof

""Is this one of the first tests of logic
that God's gift of an enquiring,..questioning mind sets before us?""

it suire sounds like it
look do you want to take the red pill
or eat of the blue fruit?

come on neo
dont eat off that tree..[lol]
of knowledge..or good evil

""People simply can't have it both ways...""

please give your evidence..*

""So now to the Aztecs..another wonderful story.""

much distorted by those
who follow the inner voices of demons

""These native Americans built a huge civilisation."'

without the aid of money

""Cortez and the conquistadores
came looking to steal the Gold!""

no i think looking for china..or east indies[spices]
or some faint memory of riches..[ok who knows]
by their deeds alone can we think to know them

[xtian bias deleted]
none is without sin
we burned people at the stake
hell is still filled with those doing eternal payback

""BUT Cortez,
didn't mind breaking a few commandments along the way.""

nor the popes
nor the saints
heck we all CAN be decieved by the inner voices
feeding fear or hate or creed or greed

""Good and Evil are very flexible terms
when humans start using them!""

yes but if we dont figure out the difference
hell is full of teachers..loving to teach us the difference

a clue
with love/good
no one gets hurt

NO ONE..!

Thanks my down load starts again tomorrow so after I get home will use the lot.
OUG you have a great heart, I hope I do too.
My journey in life long ago left God behind, not in anger but leave that.
This subject proves a point, out there, even in OLO.
a thousand story's could have been told.
People fear talking about such things and being considered foolish.
I love learning and care little about image.
You seem down brother now and again you know its in your hands but I wish you well.

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1682
This link lead to a number of others.
As I have become too unwell to go out I may look at them later

OUG....We might be closer to agreeing on many things than you realise.

A loving God wouldn't create hell....However...other dimensions where souls contemplate their actions and learning from their misdeeds over time is possible.

I don't use the word GOD generally. It means too many things to too many people, with everyone wanting and believing they own him/her/it.

Belief also is a conceited concept. If I have to respect someone's belief in a God then they should have to respect an atheists non-belief. A thinking person has to defend their beliefs! So I don't use the word belief generally.

So, if there is a creator GOD/Being his/her/its omniscience demands that we should use our magnificent minds to continually question and analyse all things.

You seem to believe in past lives... which is fine by me. I have never experienced a flashback or dream to a past life but I know many who have.

Your summation of science is reasonable. It is afterall the "Theory of Evolution" & "The Theory of the Big Bang" - It has never been proven, and evidence is continually being called into question.

Your concept of an eternity of Big Bangs also has merit. The 50 years of "Theory of Big Bang" presented as fact, is over. I have never excepted the Universe starting from "nothing" as anything but fantasy, and theoretical cosmologists are starting to realise this and questioning heavily.

SearchYou tube - BBC What Happened Before the Big Bang

My "Yet,..he didn't know Eve would eat?"...wasn't really a question...I was saying people can't claim God's omniscience and then claim God not knowing things.

I agree none of us a free from sin...like Cortez...Although I think Cortez is a rather special case of excessive double Christian standards.

Of course Cortez's coming was predicted by the Native American, noted in one of the links I gave you as "The turtle backed people" referring to their armour.

So much to learn...so much to understand using our enquiring minds...so little time.

No-one has all the answers..but...this thread proves some of us are still on the journey!