Maybe we should re-consider what ancient and traditional man said about Spirituality?

Maybe we have called what they believe Myth way too easily.

Some links for you to consider

Hopi Prophecy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y1GdKdNhY4&feature=player_embedded

Worth a read : http://www.welcomehome.org/rainbow/prophecy/hopi1.html

Native American Stories

Video 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzjgL8YAmN4
Video 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E4RKco0fqw
Video 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUQSNuBt6j8&feature=related
Video 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ5BlX1IARk&feature=related
Video 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_6vGmjabzw

We certainly haven't got things right - so why not listen to others for a change.

I thank you for that opiniated2 I will watch them tonight.
A quick goggle search mother Shipton will find words that should stun.
From hundreds of years ago she told of our today and tomorrow.
OUG will report back after visiting your links tomorrow.

Thanks Belly,

I have done some research into the great seers but if time permits I can also do some more.

The interesting thing about Mother Shipton is that many (modern sceptics) have put her visions down to methane gas oozing from the walls of her cave, that she did the viewings from.

Perhaps we should all be on methane gas if that is true... Ha!

There are so many unexplained monolithic structures way older than the pyramids, that modern science, archaeology and anthropology cannot explain, so they just throw it in the too hard basket.

I can give you links to many videos that would certainly keep you thinking. They sure have that affect on me.

The Mayans, The Hopi, The Egyptians, The Summerians - They are all most interesting cultures.

And much of their spirituality has been consigned to myth - apparently because we know more... Ha!

Thanks look forward to seeing them.
Yes Delphi was said to be gas too but the visions seem true.
Just a thought, talk of the speed of light being wrong/right bought it on.
If we put together a list of our greatest achievers.
Put them here , deeds that is with out names just dates.
Some would think no human could do such a thing, without supernatural help.
Gods would get the credit.

visions are a thing..that cant be used consistantly
much depends on the realm from which the vision comes

take nukes for an egsample..
nuke bombs cant come from heaven
thus we know that came from hell

ditto the armogeddon vision's
quite simply the only way that could be allowed to happen
is if we all lost our compassion etc..recall the teaching of jonah

as long as there is one or a few that still love neighbour
nothing like that can happen...[unless they got accended en mass]

and this movement of people has happend
indeed swedenberg wrote of the same event..that preceeds my first quoted bit..[re the tv]..and them watching it on the flat scren tv..

but enough of that
it will be because thgey had the freewill
and chose to deney god the things only he can do

anyhow..im restricting myself..to replying questions
[in the next realm..thats how it works..but there..they reply a question..with a question...cause we learn..the asker alllready knows the answer...

so let them face
..the answer..that helped framed the question
[for only that..we can face is allowed..for us to face]

belly quote..""If we put together a list of our greatest achievers.

""Put them here""..
by their..""deeds..""
..""that is with out names..just dates.""

""Some
would think no human..could do such a thing,
without supernatural help.""

thus..[in mr bells questioning]
..""Gods would get the credit""..

sure belly
or nature...anything but face the reality
that we..HAVE TO HAVE ..the thought first
ie first know the answer..to even begin to know the question

in truth we can by pass the question and answer all together
once we know we all ready got the answer

the only real question remains..

is this 'thought'..from good..or ill
comes this idea/thought quest-ion....from heaven...or hell

by its likely..result..its fruits
its easy to tell

Hi Belly & OUG,

I thought I had better warn you guys just in case, that You Tube videos use up lots of your download. So make sure of your limits.

OUG, The thought of where something came from... such as Good or Evil has problems.

Example. The Genesis Story

God is

Omniscient: God knows all things, past, present & future. God knows what we have done in the past, God knows what we are doing in the present & God knows what we will do in the future!

Omnipresent: God is everywhere.

Genesis 3:1-6...http://bibleresources.bible.com/passagesearchresults.php?passage1=Genesis+3%3A1-6&version1=9

If God is omniscient - GOD knew we would eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, otherwise GOD wouldn't have placed it there.

God placed it to enable us to think, to have choices, to make choices.

It wasn't Eve's fault! It can't have been, God knows everything!

And yet all over the world people use Omniscient about God and then in their teaching and understanding undermine his omniscience with their stories.

Either God isn't omniscient OR something is wrong!

If a God created all things then I guess Omniscience is a quality one would ascribe to him. Yet, he didn't know Eve would eat?

Is this one of the first tests of logic that God's gift of an enquiring, questioning mind sets before us?

People simply can't have it both ways...

So now to the Aztecs.. another wonderful story.

These native Americans built a huge civilisation. Cortez and the conquistadores came looking to steal the Gold!

Cortez, didn't like Aztecs performing human sacrifice...and rightly so. One would say that is a very Christian trait!

BUT Cortez, didn't mind breaking a few commandments along the way.

He didn't mind coveting his neighbour's property....He didn't mind stealing his neighbours property....He didn't mind killing! But worse killing whilst stealing the gold if needs be.

Good and Evil are very flexible terms when humans start using them!

Aztecs Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4JabdIKx8s

Aztecs Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BbIWuwtUZg

Aztecs Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_wAHvHIntM

Aztecs Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f332HpnpgkI

Aztecs Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtzndX1f7aM

ENJOY!