Well, I can't swallow that!

Dear Ammonite,

Then you'll never be satisfied.

Yes Belly, I do understand that you have never supported Gillard, and that is based on her politics not her gender, and good on you for that too.

There seems to be a fair bit of patently anti-women misogynist chit-chat here from others though.

Here is the EMILY List strategic plan:
http://www.emilyslist.org.au/images/stories/pdf/Constitution/Strategic_Plan_2008-2010.pdf

It seems to be similar to a trades union group seeking to assist trades unionists into parliament, or a farmers group supporting the political ambitions of farmers, or a business group and so on.

I saw no mention of the denunciation of men, the stealing of men's children (?), or the destruction of 'the missus' in those marriages (?) where the imbalance of power still has women called 'girls', where the tea is on the table by 5.30 pm., and don't call it dinner please, although I doubt any from EL would allow themselves to be called 'the missus' or eat tea.

Whatever ill-will I feel towards Gillard, it has nothing to do with her gender.

It is absolute Tommyrot to claim Gillard has queered the pitch for other women, any more than a very poorly performing Bligh has done that in Qld.

Their politics, one of appeasing the Liberal voters and leaders before addressing either their own 'general' side of politics or a vast number of ALP members and die-hard voters, like Belly, are the issue.

Let us not forget, that the last ALP PM was SO bad and SO loathed within and without the ALP that HE was dumped.

Yes, HE was dumped, it was not a not HER that was dumped, and surely that is a new low for any political party?

Personally, I don't think Gillard should step down but she should sack her failed immigration minister (and quite a few others too) and set about creating a humane and intelligent policy to deal with refugees, and start to call them that too.

To me, Gillard does appear to latch onto the next shiny-thing offered to her and I do not see any signs of imagination or vision.

TBC

You are too kind.

Belly is very much about gender and would probably hold a different opinion if Gillard was a "mum". Apparently having kids renders one ignorant in Belly's world.

>> At least we know true shock jocks slants, the danger is far more from uninformed MUMS <<

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4663&page=0#122867

As for your POV, concur entirely. Hoping Gillard resists the temptation to change the law as Abbott is offering and can remain in office until the end of this electoral cycle. By then, the world will have moved on lot from the necessity of slowing pollution (carbon tax leading to ETS) to the value that many boat people have provided to Australia, from the Vietnamese to date.

All we have learned from Gillard thus far is that women are as fallible as men. But then, we already knew that. As Pelican stated, it is time we took gender out of assessing a person's capabilities. We are not expecting Gillard to load trucks any more than we would John Howard.

TBC/Antiseptic I support women in Parliament.
We have some great ones right now, one is wed, to another woman, and would make a great PM.
but no Emily's list, no must have 40% of either sex.
Must have, ONLY the best and brightest candidate ALWAYS.
Now, you blokes! ace it up ok? every woman ever born was/is wonderful if you do not agree ask Ammonite.
Wish the loverly Lady's would stop planning how to get the boy Friend in to the house while the hubby is at work.
Fathers day was total confusion in some country villages.

I see what you mean Ammonite.

Belly, please, are you suggesting the male brain is kept in the trousers and its geographical location shapes its singular role?

Surely, it takes two to Tango?

Particularly in the marital arts department?