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Is the fix in - has Tony Abbott lost?

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Why all the focus on the figureheads? The PM is "first among equals" and does the bidding of the Party room and those who tell the Parliamentarians what to do.

In my view, the whole package offered by the ALP is so flawed as to simply not warrant serious consideration, so for the firt time in my life I'm going to vote Libnat next time around. I really don't care who's leader and I don't have any great faith in the ability of the coalition, but the ALP is simply too awful to allow any more opportunity to screw things up. The nation can't afford them.
Posted by Antiseptic, Saturday, 20 August 2011 6:32:01 AM
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Why all the focus on the figureheads?...Anty...your only saying that, cause no-one is looking at you:)

LEAP
Posted by Quantumleap, Saturday, 20 August 2011 8:40:54 AM
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Thanks for your "contribution" Lea: surprisingly lucid, for once. Double dose of meds this morning?
Posted by Antiseptic, Saturday, 20 August 2011 8:42:44 AM
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We watched "Q and A," last Monday evening.
One of the panelists was Malcolm Turnbull.
Here was a man who was able to present his
point of view in a lucid, and logical manner,
without insult, exaggeration, and fumbling of
words. One may not have agreed with everything
that was said, but from the logical point of view
one could understand his intent, and see things
from an alternate perspective. We didn't turn off
or switch channels - as we're inclined to do
when Mr Abbott speaks.

It is unfortunate that they can't have the right
leader in the Opposition. The difference between
Turnbull and Abbott is enormous. One wanders what's
wrong with the Liberal Party that they would choose
such an incompetent man to lead the Party.
And as a result many Party supporters are currently
sitting on the fence - and some are inclined to
favour the Greens and Independents.
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:37:01 AM
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Lexi mate, you really do worry me some times. Surely you don't want to make the same mistake again.

Turnbull is another Rudd. Another orator, who is not to be trusted. He, like Rudd will act out the part of the PM that he thinks most people want, but you would need to dig very deep to find out what his motives were. I am damn sure they do not have your best interests, or mine, in mind.

When ever you listen to an orator just remember a few in the past.

Churchill was one, & he left the UK totally broken.

Hitler was one, & he left millions dead, & his country shattered.

Now we've had Rudd, who is still a minor problem, & the poor yanks have Obama. He is going to be the worst ever for the US & possibly us.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 20 August 2011 1:03:52 PM
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An in depth comment there hasbeen.
I think anti the true nature in both camps is this.
Abbott and Gillard gained power in much the same way.
Equipped with their own tight teams[ maybe thats the problem? teams may have been drunk!]
They undermined their leaders.
First the one arm over his shoulder trust me mate thing.
Then and even before knifing him at every chance.
Once enough wool had been pulled over the eyes of both sides they took power.
Now those two teams with in teams, are constantly trying to tie the ends over a big ball of string up.
As both party's, who by the way are force fed leaders policy not a free thought to be seen, are trying to unravel.
Both sides are on a down hill slope, the ball is rolling,every effort is being made to stop it, if its center sees the light it is no more.
Hill ahead is very steep, get your hard hat on and stand back shrapnel coming.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 20 August 2011 1:28:32 PM
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