Mollydukes:"do you have a word for loud bullying men"

Ar$eholes? The difference between such men and the feminasties that inhabit places like the CSA is that the feminasties really think that men are second-class citizens. It's evident in every aspect of their behaviour and has, until recently, been condoned by the hierarchy, which was made up of either career bureaucrats who'd managed to get themselves stuck in the CSA trap and were featherbedding what they had, or women who shared the jaundiced view of men.

The CSA's role is not to "sort out" anything. they're a collection agency, no more or less. It's because the feminasties were so bad at doing the right thing, as demanded of every other collection agency in the land (including those run by "loud bullying men"), that they have been stripped of so much autonomy. As I've said earlier, they are second only to centrelink for complaints received and upheld by the Ombudsman and they have only one function: to ensure assessments and collections are made according to quite clear and simple legislation.

As suze said, though, I don't think this is the right thread to discuss it and it's been done to death anyway, for the moment.

Suzeonline Thanks for your support sister. I have a 'real' brother who is very much like the silly old farts who hang out here. I feel kind of affectionate toward them, actually.

Because, seriously, it really must be difficult to cope with the incredible changes that have happened since they were the master race. My dear old brother is not a happy man and I wish it was otherwise.

I've really only got time to dabble here. Love OLO though, it seems like a really useful hang-out for a certain very predictable type of old man. It's like one of those 'sheds' for blokes that are happening, in my area anyway. A virtual shed for the sort of bloke who doesn't use power tools.

And Anti, good for you! You know it all and you just hang on to your prejudices, your hate and your anger. There might be some justice for you in another universe.

Take hope though, the feminasties seem to have gone to ground. Youngest son - 24 years old - tells me he knows none. He does know a couple of 'fembots' but he reckons they are ok - just a bit boring and he knows they don't want to ruin his life or cut off his balls.

No prejudices, hate or anger here, quite the opposite. I'd say you should just get over yourself.