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Is the fix in - has Tony Abbott lost?

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Mollydukes:"I've sent an email to the tax department requesting that none of your tax goes toward my pension."

Very decent of you, but I'm afraid it's too late.

Mollydukes:"Obviously you are capable of providing your children with a better life than that. Lucky you eh?"

Yes indeed. In fact, the figures show that male single parents work full-time at a much higher rate than female single parents.

The CSA's figures also show that 23.3% of "paying parents" for cases registerd in 2009 are women. Some of those will also be "receiving" parents, with more than one case. About equal proportions of men and women "paying" parents go for CSA collection and private collection for the most recently registered cases, although overall, more women "paying" parents are in private collect arrangements (about 14.5% compared to 10% of all female "paying" parents), suggesting that RObert's and my decisions not to register a CSA collect case to avoid giving the mother an excuse to start trouble is far from unique.

I won't even bother to go into the systemic bias that provoked that decision, it's been done to death.

In fairness, I should say that the CSA has become less offensively partisan and has been through a massive program of cultural change designed to get rid of the dinosaur feminasties that infested the place. It's lost autonomy as part of that and is now directly under the control of DHS rather than having a separate reporting path. That's going much further in years to come and the Agency will eventually cease to exist except as a division of Centrelink I suspect.

http://www.humanservices.gov.au/spw/corporate/about-us/ses-structure.pdf
Posted by Antiseptic, Monday, 22 August 2011 12:38:14 PM
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Hasbeen, if you truly look at my post history, you will surely? see I am not happy with my party.
I truly think Tony Abbott props it up.
RObert, you I have always respected and think I understand, but you too must at times share my concerns but with your party.
Now the hard part.
Think with me.
If your only choice was Starlin or Hitler, who would you pick?
Both are filth/murderers/lies flow in every word/.
I make my choice, one side of politics is far worse than the other no leader is worthy, both have the potential, not the leaders, to do much better.
I take you back to Mark Latham, he won after Crean a close Alie knifed Kim Beasley Gillard and Fitzgibbon, a man unworthy to be in Parliament, formed the knife crew for both Kim and Kevin, if Crean takes a turn again I leave my party forever.
But after Hitler, Starlin came the light.
My choice would have been as it is today, the best of two very bad men, in this case Gillard, but in every way, forever reminding her of her failed past present and future.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 22 August 2011 12:46:12 PM
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Antiseptic

Why call them feminasties - do you have a word for loud bullying men or do you admire this sort of man as he gets stuff done maybe? Just wondering if you know why you said it.

Some of my best friends were feminasties. Bitter and twisted women after years of oppression and sexism that denied them any power or choice or freedom,and then 'empowered' with the truth that women could be free. A heady combination.

And there was some very poor behaviour from some of them but what would you expect given the circumstances; the lack of training for women on how to use power.

And there was no telling them not to blame all men just because one had abused them (or their mother or someone they cared about). No telling them that these men were equally damaged by their unsatisfying role in the rigid social system of the 50's and 60's.

These women thought like G W Bush; you're either with us or against us and there was a lot of power lined up against us; us being women who wanted a choice. Thank god things have changed and we can all settle down now the war is pretty much won.

Pleased to hear that you are keeping tabs on the CSA and that they are improving. I had problems with them for a time, useless mf's I thought, but a difficult job wouldn't you say, to try and sort out who is the injured party in an awful break-up situation.

The available policy guidelines would have been inadequate to say the least, they would have had to make them up as they went along. Can't even imagine how stressful it would have been for these workers.

Of course, some of the OLO brothers would have been able to sort it out no worries.
Posted by Mollydukes, Monday, 22 August 2011 5:08:47 PM
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Mollydukes <"Some of my best friends were feminasties. Bitter and twisted women after years of oppression and sexism that denied them any power or choice or freedom,and then 'empowered' with the truth that women could be free. A heady combination."

Lol! But oh dear, you have started something now!
You seem to have a great vocabulary to use for your defense, so I suggest you start your own thread!

This one on the Abbott is getting old now...
Posted by suzeonline, Monday, 22 August 2011 11:55:58 PM
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Molly you may be right that the old Labor was as bad as this lot to day. I was a very busy young man before Whitlam, without much time to waste on politics, so perhaps I didn't see the worst of them. Perhaps the worst thing about age, it gives you the time, & the wisdom to see these people for the garbage they are.

I did see, however, some very passionate men, having huge fights for what they believed in. Those conferences were some of the best circuses around back them, but they meant something. These staged managed things today tell me they have no heart, & are a waste of space.

I was out of the country during the Whitlam fiasco, & for much of the next many years. This is just as well, or I would have had to vote informal, & most of that was the Libs.

I would have voted for Hayden, but when Hawke took over & bit his lip, rather than push against the three mines policy, which he had always been against, I saw a man more interested in being PM than doing the right thing. Then Richardson destroyed any morality the bunch had left, [like my pun].

Beasley would have got my vote, & won, but the idiots went with Rudd. How anyone could fail to see what a bag of slime he is I can't imagine. Our new brave labor lot thought he was more electable, although many of them must have know what he is.

Then to go with the disgusting Gillard, god help us.

Obviously they were betting on the women's vote, & insufficient time for the public to wise up to her, & it just worked.

Continued
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:42:57 AM
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Continued

Yes I call it as it is. Right now I have not decided about Abbott, except that he is much better than most on the other side, & I'll give him time before judging. Perhaps that is not a good idea, I only made up my mind about Gillard a few days after the election. That shows how much better actor she is than Rudd, I picked him in 3 speaches.

However if Turnbull got back there, or if another few of their lot got to lead, I'd have no choice but to write none of the above on that bit of paper.

Hang on, what about Katter's lot. They are out polling the Greens up here. Great stuff, you've got to love Queensland. They have given me someone to vote for after all. He'd definitely be even better circus than those old Labor conferences, & the only bull sh1t with him is back home in the paddock. It would be nice if someone showed him what garbage global warming is, but he'll probably wake up soon. So Katter to the rescue, anything to stop those Greens.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:49:53 AM
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