RObert here is the truth, I am not anti mining, get full of rage at the illy things stopping progress.
I high lighted their adds, but did not disagree with them.
THEY appear for the same reasons UNIONS FOUGHT WORK CHOICES.
SELF INTEREST.
While we are talking, you avoided answering me last time, so will not ask again, but was it you in another forum years ago?
Now I am not always right, true,but if my politics are bad how about the thread calling for ALP, GREENS, voters to be exiled/taxed out of existence, or my combative mate individual here who thinks and says often, ALP voters betray AUSTRALIA.
I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR YOU.
Went back to a thread I promised not to,I need you to know I do not threaten anyone, do not ever plan to.
And that I feel threatened by the thought I ever would or that I target other than one who targets me.
Individual I think as Morgonzola does, we can talk , we can explore better governments but not without your plans here in writing.

IF I do not get an answer to my question to RObert a conservative I admire, it will disappoint me.
The one about three comments
Truth is I got more than a little wrong at the last election.
Before that. like most Australians I thought Rudd would be leading.
But I did make mention of our ability to stand in line and vote differently, but for the most part not hate.
I was wrong.
It no longer is true.
Wandering around market stalls, both weekend days, you can cut the hate, the miss information, the deliberate lies, we will pay for this wound in our culture.
Those three posts above,think about them.
I would be in total shame, to own any of those posts.
Would have, hours after posting BEGGED forgiveness.
Are we this bad? are Australians getting further away from she will be right mate?
I even feel[ and will never change] I just maybe should not have said in my defense what I think breath and know, a poster is not fair dinkum.
But lets leave that time will fix it.
I want to talk to Indy, to hear his views I want RObert to understand unions are not all the same not always bad not always wrong.
No one ever should judge any one on his/her associations or those associations on gossip and headlines in self interested [there is no other] Medea.

That is a bit sad, look I understand my politics gets folks of side.
My diatribes against greens, minority controls, refusal to embrace every lefty issue.
My constant reminders the conservatives ,forget the Nationals they are only a servant,are very far from LIBERALISM.
But those three posts, no one wants to stand up for conservatism?
No one wants to say hang on blokes you should not say that.
What chance consensus? what future Australia, is fair go mate dead.
Too disillusioned to find a link but Sydney's lady Mayoress, a person best not described, has put the word invasion in the opening ceremony's , she has in one move, hurt reconciliation more than anyone.
As no one wants to remind us those posts are not Representative of conservatism I will do it.
Abbott is the man he always has been his knife in the face of his requested candidate for office is his down fall.
Turnbull will put this party back on track,but it will be only a one term government.
Labor has said we stand tall kill us if you want but only after we get a cost on emissions passed go you good thing!

belly, "but was it you in another forum years ago?"

Pretty certain not. This is the only general discussion forum I'm part of, I take part in a couple of special interest ones (hobby related).

"The one about three comments" - not sure where that is.

I did have a friendly dig about your politics on the other thread, a way of pointing out that we are not on the same side of that divide but that I still like and respect you. I can't imagine you threatening someone online.

I was concerned that you were setting yourself up to look like the one in the wrong in the comments you were making, thinking of some advice Sam gave me recently http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12153#210513 which I don't do well at following.

R0bert

No mate I under stand RObert years ago I was an older member of a younger, mostly, forum.
Gee think it was Australian politics but not sure.
Within the forum a game developed teams became labor or liberal one in government one not I never took to the game.
Not truly sure about the name, a great forum folded, we by invitation joined a spin off, some one posted there as RObert.
Was a conservative not unlike your self showed balance and understand.
I get it wrong often, but will leave My last two posts in that thread as my final but firmly held views.
I refer to a thread, have not looked lately, that see me/my party/my government/ all who voted for us condemned to exile in Alcatraz, Nehru , or just taxed out of existence.
RObert that to me, even in jest is tasteless.
An interesting thing, that forum too fell, was deliberately infected.
Yet another off spin and it became a desert.
I was on another forum, its administrator posted here often, he stopped me putting a Link to my other forum.
His forum, his second one to do it died.
He took over the one I was on, and came here often to,,, recruit for his!
You will find it is again not doing well.

This morning I am haveing one of those moments we all should have.
Been up and about read too many news sites and papers to count, sleeplessness drives that.
Entered the OLO waters informed and ready for comment.
Came here and noticed I had diverted the thread,several times.
Then asked my self about my last post ,combative? needlessly provocative.
Would I be better just not posting in the thread [it was another]
I am unsure, oh I know some will dislike me for it.
That I would be better for not saying it, but in others eyes not mine.
I think as I wrote,as I did on launching this thread.
Are concerns about such as boat people/refugees,Multi Cultures about a race or a religion.
Can a minority turn such subjects in to directions we do not intend so as to weaken our views.
I think yes if our country, had a system that let, no not let made [for inclusiveness]every one say what they thought majority views would at times be confronting.
But if it is majority why let minority's overrule?