"totally new system, made up by australians in Australia, for Australia" that you advocate.
morganzola,
What is so vague about that ? If we are so much for Democracy then let's start one. i'm all for it. Or do you call the present system democratic where minority groups dictate, laws are disobeyed, public servants are unaccountable, super fund companies can run away with the money unchallenged etc etc. Do you want that to go on ? I don't.
Can't you even just for a split second think of things that go without saying. Are we so devoid of imagination & foresight that every little feature of a new idea needs to be printed out ? What about thinking more about a new system & what could possibly be achieved rather than dismissing a proposal up front. That is what some of the fanatical crews are practising. Do without thinking, just follow. Not good ol' son.

@ individual:

With the exception perhaps of your claim that "minority groups dictate", the problems you cite aren't caused by our system of government, so ditching the Westminter system wouldn't solve them. If you mean minority political parties, I don't see how they can dictate anything, since they can only act in collaboration with others to form a majority.

Would you be happier with a single-party system? I understand they have them in certain countries that describe themselves as "democratic". Despite your claims to be a "thinker", it seems to me that you really haven't thought this through, have you?

Please note that I'm not dismissing your proposal. Rather, I'm asking you to provide some detail beyond motherhood statements. Anybody can say the system's stuffed and whinge about the way things are, but that will never achieve anything. If you want to ditch our entire system of government, you'd better believe that you'll be asked in some detail what you intend to replace it with.

Individual, do you understand? you have just put a wish list including Racism, xenophobia, blindness.
I can only inform you, based on your words you want only Australian born, is that it?
To redraft our system to exclude, for sure greens ALP any one you target, is that not your wish?
I am sorry that you have tracked us away from the threads wanted direction, but too that you add to minority's concerns, that some in majority's have no balance.
How ever, I rest at ease, you are part of no majority, with views like yours you are part of the problem not the answer.
Harsh, no bloke your views seen here over the years are minority ones.

morganzola,
After 40 years of experience plus listening to others including monarchists & republicans it is more than clear that things are far from happy. I am saying that I am in favour of change but not for change's sake as the present republicans are arguing. I'm for change to rid ourselves of the many inefficient, incompetent & downright criminal rules, regulations & those who are charged with upholding these. Anyone who is saying that we're not on a downward trend so far as saving this country goes is having themselves on. A change is needed & needed soon. Call it republic, monarchy, Westminster whatever you want but we can not escape the fact that we can't go on like we do presently.
Belly,
I don't understand why you too see the need for those insipid accusations. I have not said anything to the effect you claim, on the contrary I want to rid ourselves from the very traits you claim I'm trying to instigate. You're getting more & more wrong with your replies to my posts. Your desperation must be hitting top gear.

@ individual:

I'm sorry mate, but I'm having a bit of trouble here. You say you're in favour of change, but not for its own sake - but you don't seem to know what you want, other than "to rid ourselves of the many inefficient, incompetent & downright criminal rules, regulations & those who are charged with upholding these".

Those sorts of changes are certainly desirable and possible within the framework of our current legal and political system, so I'm still unclear as to why you think the whole system needs to be replaced - and even less clear about what you want to replace it with.

It's not good enough to simply assert that the country's on a "downward trend" and we have to "save" it by replacing the entire political and legal system, without specifying what's wrong, what the causes are, and how whatever alternate system you propose is going to fix it. At this stage you haven't done any of that. Far from it - indeed, all you seem to be doing is calling for change for its own sake, as you accuse Republicans of doing..

At least the Republicans have a well-thought out alternative model or two for consideration. At this stage all you seem to have is a litany of unspecified complaints, with few concrete ideas about how to solve them.

Individual/Morgonzola I want to talk about my view of the current state of the western world.
I, in a thread I started but left as an refugee, RObert both praised me, and said my politics are rubbish.
Indy,no offense,I believe your politics are poorly presented and you you not me fail to under stand much about the subject.
In 1945, at the end of ww2,the politics of this world tipped up side down.
Both Russia and America/the west learned a great deal about propaganda from the Devil who served Hitler, and used it, without regard to truth.
We stopped looking as close as we should at what politicians, and often their bosses, big money, did with the power we gave them.
We can look back now, if we want to, with honesty and hind sight, see how America committed great crimes in South America, control, murders invasions.
If we ignore that we say our crimes are not crimes , we claim immunity for the very things we fight against in say Afghanistan.
In Australian politics I believe, no side is free from being influenced by big money, no side has not been victims to self interests.
Medea, OUR RICHEST people play, with our permission granted by our blindness, puppetry with our Parliaments.
I could post 20 posts then 100 more and only touch the surface.
But INDY, your words,read you post history, say LABOR/GREENS any one who did not vote conservative, well know mate we are the warriors,first to enlist in war first out of the trench's and we are not UN AUSTRALIAN because we defies those like that thread above calling for us to be taxed out of existence, imprisoned in an AMERICAN PRISON.
KKK, like racism xenophobia, hate like Nazi like.
Every thing I fight against because?
Yet it is just a minority who think like that a sick uninformed one.