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As Julia's lie is costing her in the polls, a plebiscite could restore her legitimacy.
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Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 23 June 2011 9:51:02 AM
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Col Rouge, now there is a man of integrity, high moral standing, a pillar of society.
If I repeated what he said the teacher would have thrown me out of the classroom. Posted by Aquarius, Thursday, 23 June 2011 9:56:56 AM
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Ammonite,
To quote: "There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead." That absolutely rules out a carbon tax. Did you watch the youtube clip I linked? Watch that and then try and justify her lie to Australia. Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 23 June 2011 9:57:48 AM
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SM
Missing the point as usual. Gillard is not the first pollie to go back on her exact words, however she understands the need for Australia to catch up with the rest of the world regarding putting a price on carbon. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillards-carbon-price-promise/story-fn59niix-1225907522983 And, as you can see from the link above, she never ruled out taking some form of action. Call it a 'very big tax' if you like, we need to start somewhere. Even Howard had an EST in readiness, only Abbott doesn't appear to get it and neither do you. You are just going to have to wait till the next election. Meanwhile you could think of solutions to the dwindling of natural resources, uncontrolled pollution and transition to clean sustainable industries. Make a nice change from your one-eyed view of politics. Posted by Ammonite, Thursday, 23 June 2011 10:06:41 AM
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Ammonite,
The private interview Juliar gave to Paul Kelly does not obviate the promise she and Wayne Swan made to Australia on television. If she still had an intention to introduce a price on carbon, then she knowingly lied to all of us. also from your link: she said of the next parliament. "I rule out a carbon tax." and: "While any carbon price would not be triggered until after the 2013 election, Ms Gillard would have two potential legislative partners next term - the Coalition or the Greens. She would legislate the carbon price next term if sufficient consensus existed." I.e, no carbon tax in the 2010 -2013 term. She lied. Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 23 June 2011 10:19:29 AM
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Ok, Shadow Minister and who lied about WorkChoices?
It's not that long ago and you should remember. And where is the culprit now? When the party told him to go he hung on for grim life and it took the voters to throw him out. From what I've read he's costing the taxpayers an annual fortune to keep him in the style of luxury. In the end when the time comes the voters decide. Posted by Aquarius, Thursday, 23 June 2011 10:35:59 AM
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She and the Independents who were bought by the Gizzard-Vision of a dull and boring Australia, regulated and regimented
as prescribed by Marx and described by Lenin "The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation."
(not a good strategy for a nation where the majority are 'bourgeoisie')
Well Krudd Immediately ramped up Public Debt, which Julia is blowing out even further, to increase crippling Inflation and a fraudulent Carbon Tax adds the other millstone.
The Result - diminishing public confidence as reflected in the collapse of retail spending and dimiinishing tax revenues.
Gizzards and the Independents and the Greens are "Dead Men (and Women) Walking"
- as they know now and as will be confirmed at the next general election.....
all I wish to say is
Bring It On