The Forum > General Discussion > As Julia's lie is costing her in the polls, a plebiscite could restore her legitimacy.
As Julia's lie is costing her in the polls, a plebiscite could restore her legitimacy.
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Posted by Belly, Friday, 24 June 2011 7:37:54 AM
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I don’t know lexi, it is always advisable to take on board Ideas; with reasoning we can expand or explode them; but I would think to name a new dissertation titled; “The Fundamental Principles of Ethical Science dispel the Mental Fundaments’ Unethical Principles and exploitation of the academy's and sciences”.
Any Ideas ?What do you think ? hheheh I realise some will not quit understand the title. But we can laugh Posted by All-, Friday, 24 June 2011 7:50:31 AM
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SM "The only time they don't have a mandate is when they do something they specifically promised not to."
I strongly disagree with that. We'd all be better off if it was considered that they don't have a mandate for any major actions which were not put to the electorate which does not get bi-partisan support. It's true that sometimes circumstances will change and the government needs to be able to respond but if it's that clear cut then either the main opposition party is likely to agree or it's time to give the voters a chance. Keeping quiet about plans is is only a shade less dishonest than denying them. Then we get Bligh and Lucas and the changes to petrol rebates, sale of public assets etc. Apparently they were sure the economy wouldn't need any of that going into the election (GFC was already well underway) and discovered shortly afterwards that they would have to make some big changes. R0bert Posted by R0bert, Friday, 24 June 2011 7:52:46 AM
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Robert,
Three years is a long time, would you like a plebiscite every time legislation is required for a new situation not anticipated at the elections? The party's track record and core beliefs is what they stand on. Election promises are the key focus areas for the next parliamentary term. Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 24 June 2011 9:29:08 AM
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The PM has never denied saying the words, that many accused her of lying. There is no evidence, she did not due to circumstances, she changed her mind.
The same cannot be said of the lies and misinformation that Mr. Abbott is uttering every day. "We're going to get there through a path I didn't expect during the election campaign of a fixed price period for around three to five years," Ms Gillard said. "So yes, the route to the objective is different. "When I said those words in the election campaign I didn't mean to mislead anybody and I understand that people heard those words and they look at what's happening now and they perhaps say: `What's going on? What did she mean then? What does she mean now'?" Ms Gillard said Opposition Leader Tony Abbott would say anything to scare Australians about pricing carbon...... Ms Gillard said Opposition Leader Tony Abbott would say anything to scare Australians about pricing carbon. "Tony Abbott is out there making ridiculous claims day after day about job losses, about price increases," she said. "He doesn't care about the truth in this debate. The claims he makes are false. "It's part of saying to the Australian people: `Actually, you the Australian nation, you're not up to reforming. You're not up to grappling the future. You're not up to this. Be afraid. Stay with me in the past'," Ms Gillard said..." http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8264932/i-didnt-mean-to-mislead-on-carbon-pm?cmp=nl_news_24june2011_9&mch=newsletter Posted by Flo, Friday, 24 June 2011 10:34:54 AM
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Flo,
Watch the clip where both Juliar and Wayne Swan categorically state that there would be no carbon tax. Swan goes even further claiming that it is a hysterical campaign by Abbott that labor is intending to put a price on carbon. Abbott was right again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMVc0IbtyAQ Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 24 June 2011 10:48:20 AM
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Shadow Minister in the art of verbal combat certain moves or words signal just as a ww1 Semaphore operator did.
They knew how to read every flash from great distances away.
Here you flashes, getting away, as fast as you can, from your badly thought out leaders mishap is a form of surrender, you sir may keep your sword.