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The Forum > General Discussion > As Julia's lie is costing her in the polls, a plebiscite could restore her legitimacy.

As Julia's lie is costing her in the polls, a plebiscite could restore her legitimacy.

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I am so pleased! ROTFL! spindoc and shadow minister.
Dancing on the OLO stage.
Each with one foot firmly in their mouths.
Lexi when Abbott falls, it may be very soon, remember these days, thread after thread stone after stone hurled in anger and every time BOOMERANGING back to the thrower, much to chuckle about gentlemen, my regards.
Tony show pony finally has shown every one just what we always knew.
He is still the very Mad Monk!
Posted by Belly, Monday, 20 June 2011 4:59:44 PM
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Belly,

Abbott went to the election stating that he opposed the carbon tax. Abbott has a mandate for his position and needs no further justification.

Juliar went to the polls stating that she opposed the carbon tax, the plebiscite would give her the chance to gain a mandate and legitimacy.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 20 June 2011 5:13:28 PM
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Dear spindoc,

On both sides of politics we won't know much about this debate until the policy is in action, implemented and working for nearly 6 months.
Voters then will be in a better position to judge whether the tax on polluters was worthwhile and whether the compensation was adequate.

Dear SM,

The plebiscite that is being proposed by the Opposition at a cost of
$80 million has no legal standing whatsoever. All it does is ask the
question "Do you want a carbon tax?," and at the cost of $80 million
will be ignored by the Opposition anyway if people answer "yes."
You can't be serious that the PM be part of such a farce.

Dear Belly,

Once the scheme is implemented the Opposition might be finding it difficult to explain how they will dismantle the scheme and take away
the tax cuts that came with it. It won't be easy persuading the electorate that they can raise taxes again, because prices will certainly have come down.
Posted by Lexi, Monday, 20 June 2011 7:30:28 PM
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Tut tut, Shadow,
Don’t you knooow by now?
The only ones entitled to run scare campaigns are Julia and her fellow travellers at Getup!

The reaaaally responsible thing to do would be to only allow certified AGW believers airtime.After all, the proles couldn’t possibly understand the sciiiience.

If you allow them to hear contrarian views it would confuse them, cause “mass panic”, “hysteria” even.

Let then eat cake and watch the ABC.
Posted by SPQR, Monday, 20 June 2011 8:14:12 PM
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I would observe, the lying never ends with Labor
“Your money is safe in Pyramid” (Jolly, Treasurer, Vic in the Mamma Kirner rabble government
“No child will live in poverty in 1990” (Hawke)
“Tax Cuts are law – L. A. W. – Law” (Keating)
And that is before we come to the incompetence in administration….

Every major computing “initiative” in Victoria under labor has ended in cost overruns, performance under achievement and wasted taxes and opportunities (but don’t worry – “socialists” is shorthand for a parasite which survives by sucking taxes off real people).

Labor Beazley even signed up to buy “submarines” which could not submerge…. Go figure… incompetence and indolent neglect of duty

Then we come to the present government:
Gross negligence in delivery of a defective housing insulation scheme
An array of over-priced (to suit the expectations of their union masters) and pointless/useless half built school halls.
Incompetence and mismanagement of flood funds

Wasteful profligacy at the NBN – an exercise in “nation-building” with no regard to the economic realities of life

Wasteful profligacy at the Climate Change Commission – an exercise in “nation-building” with no regard to the economic realities of life

(echo echo)

Then we come to the mishandling of refugees and the introduction of a series of chaotic malfunctions to replace the orderly handling introduced under the Howard government…

Instead of Gillard or K Rudd they should bring back Latham…
At least you knew what you were getting with Latham
The bashing bully incarnate was obvious for all to see

The present leaders lies are not



Australia does not need a plebiscite


it needs a general election and we all know the "independents" will not be around next time to support the 10 or so labor seats they will manage to retain


She got in to power by dirty deals which are falling apart....

the only thing increasing for labor is similar to the smell of dead fish...

and the longer they hang around, the worse it gets
Posted by Col Rouge, Monday, 20 June 2011 8:41:26 PM
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I don't recall having a plebiscite on whether we should send troops to the Middle East or a plebiscite on whether Workchoices should be introduced - neither of which were mandated and both of which had strong public opposition.

I also fail to see the validity of the rabid opposition to something that hasn't even been properly detailed yet or debated in Parliament as legislation.

Then again it's really been about Carbon Tax per se but more about gaining immediate and easy political advantage isn't it?

I can see another couple of years of incessant whining ahead.
Posted by wobbles, Monday, 20 June 2011 10:44:42 PM
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