Hi Flo,
Tony Abbott is one big lie, sorry, but he has lied about many things,
and on the odd occasion has admitted to it.
The man is not a politician, and never will be. Politics, in my view, is one big game to the so called Opposition "Leader" (and I use the term 'leader' very, very loosely.)
Good Lord, why am I writing this, my parents' always told me NEVER discuss politics and religion in public, as both subjects can incite much dissension on two very personal subjects.
NSB

The only ones worried about a carbon tax are the well to do soles, which is quite reactionary.

No Tony Abbott is one big fat skinny liar imop. I have never voted labor in my life but i am about to.
IF the PM wakes up to the fact 90% of her Ministers staff a5re useless & as well a few of the Ministers & cracks the whip I think shes going to make a better PM because shes still a better person.

The public know she did not lie & that shes dealing with the others.

Its not ALL her call.

Whatever it takes we dont want Tony. John Howard was able to at least have a feeling for the people.

Tony-- well I dont think hes got feelings for much other than himself being PM. So next elections I back Julie but hope she dumps some of the buggers working in ALP offices especially the Minister for aggs staff.

All
My post was not arguing for or against the plebiscite merely pointing out the waste if the voice of the citizens is to be ignored. It feels a bit like the two referenda on ACT self-government, each time the majority vote was NO but the plan was imposed and forced on the populace anyway.

Any plebiscite on a Carbon Tax would have to provide enough detail and options for it to have any real value. I don't agree that the question should just centre around Yes or No for Carbon Tax without any detail about how it is going to be implemented; and without providing evidence that the model will work.

Wish Carbon Tax would be called Pollution Tax - its not just about carbon.

Amonite "Wish Carbon Tax would be called Pollution Tax - its not just about carbon."

no it is about the government sticking its hand deeper into the discretionary incomes of private individuals to misdirect more resources into socialist fantasies and the artificial economic levelling where some sectors of the population will be forced to pay more tax, becuase they can be bled more, whilst others receive more "effortless" benefits, simply because they are incapable of applying productive effort for themselves...

If Gizzards is honest about it, she is simply employing the same economic philosophy that Lenin employed against the Kulaks in the early 1920s....

except Gizzards lacks the political majority (well she is a minority government, supported by "independents" and which is rapidly falling apart at the seams)
but she lacks the political majority needed to adopt some of Lenins more drastic actions

and that "despotic" risk is why she and the "watermelon" greens will be history come the next election.