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The Forum > General Discussion > As Julia's lie is costing her in the polls, a plebiscite could restore her legitimacy.

As Julia's lie is costing her in the polls, a plebiscite could restore her legitimacy.

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Rache,

Please list the promises that O'Farrell has broken.

Flo,

there was no election promise to bring in a carbon pricing mechanism, don't try and make it up.

Belly,

Please tell me what labor's achievements are. I can't see them, and according to the essential research polling, neither can the rest of the country,

Lexi,

Labor's bad policies
1 immigration
2 BER
3 Pink batts
4 fuel watch
5 grocery watch
etc etc etc.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 23 June 2011 5:07:58 AM
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Reading the SMH this morning, Labor's own research says exactly what I was saying:

"Gillard is seen as cold and untrustworthy"

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/a-year-of-frustration-for-gillard-as-voters-refuse-to-forgive-and-forget-20110622-1gfky.html

"By overthrowing Rudd, she created an emotional starting point for public assessment. This was compounded by her broken promise - "there will be no carbon tax under the government I lead" - to entrench a dominant image of dishonesty."

No one trusts Juliar any more. If she leads the ALP to the next election it will be ruined.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 23 June 2011 6:08:51 AM
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Shadow Minister, take my word for it it is honestly true.
Every word and every intention in those words here is my truly honestly held view,not an attempt to fire you up.
I wish, my ALP younger people, could file away every single one, of your posts here.
A couple of other could be added to that list.
Some with time, could research EVERY major change the ALP in government bought in, compare the panic,the confrontation,misleading and false comments with yours.
Your posts once on file could be used to remind, country, Modern Conservatism is not putting plans for our future, not announcing policy's.
It rumbles in rubbish tip seeking dirt, lies , any deceptive thing to hurl at labor.
We built thousands of school Library's,you gave them flag polls.
Look read again the pathetic and sad,extremely so ,reply to Kevin Rudd's sorry speech,it mirrors Modern lost Conservatism.
Tell me, prove to me, the frauds committed in pink bats and Ber did not VERY OFTEN take place in the hands of EVEN LIBERAL BRANCH secretary's.
Look at your leader ,marching around SELECTED FACTORY'S one owned by former Liberal candidates or ,and it is true , the head of Abbott's election funding group.
Julia? are you fair dinkum mate.
the head of his personal fund raising group posing as a businessman about to be sent broke by carbon tax.
ACTORS RECRUITED TO LIE!
In ten years, it will be much sooner, your posts,your claims I am blind to Labors faults could,truly believe it,become the funniest Comedy this country ever produced.
Bloke room exists,without spin,without panic,without Mr Confrontation or Doctor No, to get stuck in to labor.
But, remember your words are here, said you will support a carbon tax BUT NOT YET!
You will live contentedly forgetting your words defending who ever leads you party for dumping their policy's and adopting much of the ALP,S
Shadow Minister lets not look back to John Howard, tell me of Abbott's claim to fame.
Tell me after he is thrown out,by his own party, you will not take on my views he damages Liberalism/Conservatism.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 23 June 2011 6:09:30 AM
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SM, you can cherry pick as much as you like and ignore facts that do not support your view.

PM Gillard in the same interview, where she said there would not be a carbon tax, went on to say there would a carbon pricing mechanism.

The conversation was about how carbon would be priced.

It is a prudent idea to read whole paragraphs, so what is being said is seen in context.

SM, it is time to move on.
Posted by Flo, Thursday, 23 June 2011 7:58:23 AM
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Flo,

Sorry, Not on the pre election interview I saw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMVc0IbtyAQ

There is no doubt what so ever as to what was promised.

Labor supporters have tried to weasel out of it since, but no one believes them, or you.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 23 June 2011 8:43:09 AM
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SM

Gillard was not exactly ruling out a carbon tax either.

As Flo said, you are playing semantics here. Action on carbon emission was on the agenda, the means have altered is all - nothing that Howard didn't do with his core and non-core promises.

Take of the blinkers and take a real hard look at all sides of politics - no one is perfect. You are simply making yourself look foolish given the list of the many indiscretions of your Liberal Party.

Finally, the plebiscite would simply cost a sh1t-load of money and achieve nothing. Gillard's legitimacy will be established at the next election.
Posted by Ammonite, Thursday, 23 June 2011 9:08:34 AM
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